A very interesting discussion, guys. Are you all referring to full shots only and not half shots, chips, or sand shots? Just speaking personally, I have better success - OK, less failure - with those shots than with a full lober.
L. Hunter Kevil Univ of Missouri -----Original Message----- From: owner-shopt...@mail.msen.com [mailto:owner-shopt...@mail.msen.com] On Behalf Of Dave Tutelman Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:43 PM To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Is it possible to hate a club? Hi, TFlan! I agree with you and TW that a lob wedge is usually a game-hurter rather than a game-helper. No matter what Pelz says. What is the fly in the ointment about the Pelz advice? PRACTICE! As y'all know (from your own business experience), people want to buy a game, not earn one. My two rules for using my lob wedge: (1) Only use it when no other club will do the job. (2) Practice it. A LOT. If you haven't done lob wedge practice this week, leave the club home. Yesterday my LW saved me two strokes on the front nine. But I definitely followed both rules. And I can certainly remember rounds that using the LW cost me two strokes. Now, let me prove again that I'm a numbers guy, and quibble with a couple of numerical assertions in your post. (1) "Open the 58 two degrees and you have a 60." Nope. Rotating the shaft does not have a 1:1 relationship between azimuth and loft. To add 2* of loft, you need to open the face 3*. That doesn't negate your advice, just changes it quantitatively. (2) "He's a 19 handicapper who has never broken 90." I suppose it's mathematically possible to be a 19 and never broken 90. But it's damn hard. If you typically play a course with a 72 rating where your course handicap is 19, then the AVERAGE of your top-ten-of-twenty scores is something like 91-92 in order to keep it there. So ALL your best-half rounds have to be 90-93 in order never to break 90. You can change my assumptions about course rating and slope, but the numbers all come out in support of the assertion that a 19 handicap is very likely to break 90 a few times a year if he plays even once a week. Cheers! DaveT At 12:27 PM 8/27/2009, Tom Flanagan wrote: >Can a golfer hate an inanimate object like a golf club? I hate my 60 >degree wedge. Hate it! Ever since that Pelz guy popularized the 4 >wedge concept, I've lost more strokes than I've gained. What's the >point of a 60 degree club if you already have a 56 or a 58 in the >bag? Open the 58 two degrees and you have a 60. And please spare me >the "you increase the bounce" argument. A 58 degree with say 10 >degrees of bounce only changes a couple degrees - meaningless. And >not to put too fine a point on it, how does one know he's opened >club face 2 degrees? That's an infinitesimally small change. > >I recently had conversation with a golfer who "needed" a 60 degree >wedge, a Vokey. He spent a half-hour in the golf shop looking at >60's's but couldn't find one with the "correct" bounce.. There were >10 and 12 degree bounce heads but he insisted that he "needed" an 8 >degree because of the hard fairways. The guy "knew" exactly what he >needed because he read Pelz's book. He's a 19 handicapper who has >never broken 90. Now, with a 60 degree, he'll raise scores rather >than lower them. I told the guy to get a 56 or a 58 with the least >bounce available. Nope, gotta do what the book says works. Even >worse, I have yet to find a Vokey or a Cleveland or a Callaway >wedge that measures what is stamped on the head. Not one single time. > >The cost of advertising strikes again. > >TFlan -- Shoptalk ** Sponsored by the new Aldila Voodoo. Learn more at http://aldilavoodoo.com/ -- Shoptalk ** Sponsored by the new Aldila Voodoo. Learn more at http://aldilavoodoo.com/
