On 6/8/07, Michael Cozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>     NAT, for all it's faults, does a decent job of keeping outsiders
> from connecting to an internal network. Having access to a true class c
> that you can use for lan/wan purposes on face value seems nice.
Just because each device has its own public IP address doesn't mean
that it isn't behind a firewall.  A "default-deny" policy works
equally well with or without NAT.

>     So be careful here, some guy with good intentions is going to take
> your "technically correct" opinions, misconfigure a firewall for 240
> devices on a class c, and 3 million people will have lost their credit
> card info- all because some cracker figured out how to script a
> dictionary attack through a Logitech Webcam.
If someone misconfigures a firewall with NAT, the same problem can occur.

Unless I'm mistaken, a two-interface firewall like Shorewall creates
will work just fine for routing a whole subnet, and setting rules for
each machine behind it, even without NAT.  It's not a common setup,
because ISPs don't hand out large blocks of IPs, but it's possible.

Will

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