i'm all one for, do a little bit do it well... aka, after you have enough functionality for a "minimum viable product" - get the design right... be perfect in that... homosapiens have sight as probably our most common used and interactive sense, and perfection for that sense is possibly initially the most critical...
for example, on seek i notice that the apply button in the small popup window often is out of "the visible area" (and on lion, we often don't even see scroll bars by default, until you start scrolling that is, so you don't even know it's a scrollable area!)... bad! bad! bad! even details such as having the wrong font, or something as trivial as the wrong radius on the round-edge on one of the buttons on a page, we "intuitively" pick up on these, and it somehow doesn't "feel right"... IMHO, in terms of "list of features to give even for a first ever release", do a "minimum viable product" list, but for design, go for absolute perfection, nothing less will do! simran. On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Mathew French < mathew.fre...@subscribe-hr.com.au> wrote: > Bit late on this one... > > I sometimes run my self around in circles, driving perfection. Must be the > old OCD. But then reality kicks in... Customers will drive the final 10-15% > of product/feature dev. > And this probably gets it to where it needs to be in the best shape. In > the interest of sanity, u have to let go a little and trust in this process > and it will work out. > > This has worked for us and are releasing every 4-6 weeks. As part of our > overall dev startegy though, there is consolidation, which is driven by > us... we have just arrived here after about 15 Months of hard core > releasing. Linkedin Integration, Yammer, Seek, MyCareer, Payroll > Connectors, etc. Now we are pulling this all together using wizards, cause > now we have seen how the customer interacts with the product. > > Hope this makes sense. > > Cheers, > > MF > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 1:21 AM, Pat <disrupt...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Agree with Adam here - the minimum viable product concept is key, and >> it's brutal to adhere to it properly. Clearly, trying to build the >> whole idea perfectly in one hit is impossible. >> >> That said, (as the author of the post referred to) I'm a firm believer >> in "perfecting" the minimum viable product to the greatest extent >> possible without mass market testing. Not striving for perfection on >> the kernel of the enterprise is dumb. >> >> Who knows how many websites would have made it but for their sloppy >> design? Rushing from one project to the other, hoping to uncover a >> kind of platonic form in the ether that guarantees a win doesn't work >> in the overwhelming majority of cases. Most of us aren't inventing >> Twitter, so without a highly addictive concept persae, striving for >> perfection is the best way I know to increase the chances of success >> in the real world. >> >> In my view, you win by grabbing every advantage you possibly can. A >> website is nothing without the experience of the people using it - >> you're shooting yourself in the foot if you let that slide. >> >> On Nov 2, 12:30 am, Brian Dorricott <brian.dorric...@meteorical.co.uk> >> wrote: >> > +1 >> > >> > >> > >> > Eric Ries introduced a good term for this in 2009: Minimum Viable >> Product. There's an entry on Wikipedia that explains the term well: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product It is well worth a >> read. >> > >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Brian >> > >> > >> > >> > U:http://www.meteorical.co.uk >> > >> > > Yea, I agree that you definitely need to get the product in front >> > >> > > of people. It challenges all the assumptions you previously made, >> > >> > > provides many new use cases and gives you immense motivation to >> > >> > > keep working and improve the product. >> > >> > > >> > >> > > There is a great saying that I've heard a few times (something >> > >> > > like) "If you aren't embarrassed by what you launched then you've >> > >> > > launched too late." >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > If you worry too much about perfection in the very beginning then >> > >> > > you risk releasing the most amazing product 2008 has ever seen but >> > >> > > in 2011. >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > Thanks >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > Adam >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Silicon Beach >> Australia mailing list. Vist http://siliconbeachaustralia.org for more >> >> Forum rules >> 1) No lurkers! It is expected that you introduce yourself. >> 2) No jobs postings. 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