Thanks Tom.
Part time is tough, not really available in the kind of jobs I do except 
when you create it yourself, being in one place for a while it can happen.


On Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:55:12 AM UTC+11, Tom Allen wrote:
>
> Hi Caroline,
>
> I attempted to do customer development while working full time and 
> managing a two month old child. I got very little done, but enough to see 
> hints that there was a market worth capturing. Those hints led me to quit 
> my job to devote myself (and small team by this stage) to customer 
> development, after which I got masses done in a short space of time. 
> Unfortunately, this full time cust dev ended up with me realising that the 
> market+tech wasn't ready, and my team wasn't ideal, so I wrapped things up.
>
> If I had that time again, I'd have stuck with the job for longer, and done 
> more of the cust dev while employed. I'd try not to let a desire to leave 
> the job and do a startup distract from critically analysing the feedback I 
> was getting from people. As for how; I'd push to go part time 3-4 days a 
> week. I'd try to be hyper-organised ahead of "startup day(s)" by having the 
> list of people to call/meet sorted out beforehand, and force myself to have 
> made the first cold-call by 8:30am. I'd call people in Perth/New 
> Zealand/overseas markets to make use of timezone differences. I'd make sure 
> only to team up with people who would demonstrate their commitment rather 
> than just promise it. After that, I agree with Elias that when you're 
> actually aiming to secure a customer (rather than just work out if they 
> exist), you need to be working on the startup full time.
>
> And if after all that you find out there's no viable market, then do what 
> I did and leverage the new network you've established to get a better job 
> anyway... :-)
>
> Hope that helps,
> Tom
>
> On 28 October 2012 07:51, Caroline Gordon <carolinegordon...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Anyone out there dreaming / doing a startup around a fulltime job. I 
>> suspect there are a bunch of people on this list in that position ;-)
>> Just looking for inspiration, I'm coming to the conclusion that customer 
>> development is next to impossible. You can play around and build a few 
>> things but to asking if anyone has truly engaged with customers out of 
>> regular hours (and around the 'rest' of their lives ;-)
>>
>> Ideas?
>>
>> Caroline
>>
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