What an unreasonable thing to say Patrick ;) Love your one liner explaining it though, to me it really captures the essence - and the benefit goes both ways, not only with the skills can business people keep the techies in check, the techies also are more appreciative of business people who can understand some of the reasons (if not the code) behind why some tweaks are fundamental changes and re-architectures while others can be executed quickly.
GA bashing bandwagon aside, i think overall they are good for the community, it's wonderful for everyone to understand technology better - just wish they did it in a more community oriented way (rather than marketing it so strong that it comes across as used car salesman trying to sell you "hot"-cars! - having said that, they are doing something, and in this case, i think it's better than nothing! :) simran. On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:15 PM, Patrick Collins <pcolli...@gmail.com>wrote: > Just to be the voice of reason here, I've heard people on this list > heavily promoting that business folks learn how to code. Often with much > sneer and derision. > > If GA's message were "learn enough to be dangerous, talk tech with your > development team and help them design your new startup intelligently" that > would probably come across well. > > Regards, > Patrick > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 5, 2013, at 4:47 AM, Craig <crai...@gmail.com> wrote: > > As a developer I would have to agree. The idea that you could learn enough > in weeks to build something other than a trivial web site is rubbish. Most > good developers have at least 5 years and more commonly 10+ years under > their belt before they could build something that will stand up under real > world usage conditions. > > On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 5:58:29 PM UTC+10, simran wrote: >> >> I'm a huge believer in people learning a new skill (for just the purity >> of it, or for the application of it), and no doubt GA run fantastic courses >> - but i'd be skeptical of implying that learning the skill in a few weeks >> will give you enough knowledge to build your system (unless the system you >> are building - be it website or app - is a trivial one and more an "add on" >> to the business). Implying that doing a course for a few weeks makes you >> sufficiently knowledgable and experienced to do relatively complex things >> is like a techie thinking he doesn't need a business co-founders because he >> found the "venture capital" category in the yellow pages or that he now has >> a marketing plan because someone gave him a excel template! >> >> On a separate note, i have often seen people write their email as "simran >> [at] dn.gs" and variations of that :) it's embarrassing to see that done >> with people thinking that email harvesters are still pattern matching for >> direct words on either side of an @ :) >> >> ($email = 'simran[ta]dn.gs') =~ s/\[ta\]/@/g; >> haha :) >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Stacey Jacobs <sta...@generalassemb.ly>wrote: >> >>> If you are having trouble trying to find a tech co-founder, have you >>> considered learning to code yourself? >>> >>> Check out >>> this<http://www.startupsmart.com.au/planning/business-planning/stop-looking-for-a-tech-co-founder-and-learn-how-to-do-it-yourself/201306049893.html>article >>> that Startup Smart wrote about General >>> Assembly <https://generalassemb.ly/> yesterday. >>> >>> As Riley Batchelor, our GM said: >>> >>> *“Coding is not as mysterious and difficult as people think. You just >>> need to start small and get your feet wet,” says Batchelor. “A lot of >>> students are quite surprised at their ability once they’ve jumped in, got >>> hands on and started practising."* >>> * >>> * >>> We have a few of upcoming courses in >>> Front-End<https://generalassemb.ly/education/front-end-web-development>, >>> Back-End <https://generalassemb.ly/education/back-end-web-development>and >>> Immersive >>> Development<https://generalassemb.ly/education/web-development-immersive> >>> . >>> >>> If you have any questions at all, drop me an email on stacey @ ga.co >>> >>> Remember that there are no silly questions too... our courses are >>> designed for beginners, so if you don't know the difference between front >>> and back end.... don't worry! >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Silicon >>> Beach Australia mailing list. 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