At 10:36 PM 5/8/2007, you wrote:
Actually I am not in agreement with this statement. Wolves will eat
anything rather than starve, so I would have to say that yes they do eat
grains. Also they eat the whole animal so any undigested or partially
digested grains in the GI tract of prey animals is also eaten. I have seen dogs eat natural grains on rye grass when it was going to seed also.

If you read Dr. David Mech's work with wolves you will see that he says that they shake out the stomach before they eat. Getting rid of most the the grasses and such.

So you have no electronics that out gas pesticides in your home or
other out gassing products such as plastic ware in your kitchen,
furniture or fabrics, new clothes that all outgas formaldehyde, paint that out gases pesticide, particle board or medium density fiber board, glues ,mastick under your vinyl floors . . . there are so many toxins in homes these days that the EPA stated in 1998 that the indoor air pollution in our homes has a greater impact on our health than industrial air pollution and car exhaust.

I have less electronics that most people. I have the same things as most by don't buy new clothes but every 5 yrs or so other than underware. I have many allergies and one of my worst is to formaldehyde so I try to avoid it at all costs.


I have had many dogs eat plain whole grains right out of the horses' grain buckets, no molasses or other additives to entice them.
As well they will raid the chicken feed, crumbles or pellets on a
regular basis. I have observed this with over 20 of my own dogs over the
past 30 years as well as seen friends dogs do this on other farms so I
can not agree with the statement that dogs don't eat grains.

Dogs are willing to eat just about anything to get the things they need. If you are feeding commercial dog food I find they will eat the strangest things. When I fed top quality dog food my dogs at dirt for minerals, and anything else. Since I've been feed raw my dogs don't tend to eat anything but their raw food.



I don't live where grain is grown so I can't say I have seen them eat
fresh growing grain. I do see them eat grass with seed heads on it and herbs quite frequently. I had one dog that in her old age would eat Comfrey fresh off the plant, as well as oregano and marjoram. Not that these are grains but they are leafy green vegetables.

Animals will self medicate so your dogs eating herbs are just following natural.


Then I must in all seriousness ask do you eat like a chimpanzee since
our DNA is less than 1% different? we are closer to them than dogs are
to wolves when you use mitochondrial DNA as the basis of comparison.
If not why not? Why is it more important for your dogs to eat like
wolves than for your family to eat like chimpanzees?

From all I have read dogs are much closer to wolves than we are to chimpanzees. Dog's are only .02% different.


My views on vaccinating are to use no thimerosal (mercury) containing
vaccines and to separate each one that I use, only Distemper, Parvo and
Rabies -- the new core protocol -- by two weeks so that the puppies
immune systems are not overwhelmed by multiple antigens being introduced
at the same time.

Many breeds have been found to suffer terrible side effects from vaccines and while I agree that the mercury in them can be part of the problem. In my breed I have seen vaccines kill dogs so I no longer give any vaccines other than the rabies and only because it is the law. They go to dog shows and have never gotten even kennel cough since I quit vaccinating. I have my puppy buyers who are afraid of not vaccinating give just a parvo vaccine at 15 weeks and a single distemper vaccine at 20 weeks. Wait 2 weeks and then titer for both parvo and distemper so far all have had high titers and need no further vaccines. My dogs who are not vaccinated have consistently had adequate titers for both parvo and distemper.

I used to belong to my local CSA and we enjoyed the great organic veggies they offered. This year I have expanded the size of my garden so did not resub with the CSA but I continue to promote it to my neighbors who do not garden.

Moving this discussion to the off topic list. Sorry Mike it has gone on this long. Hope some on the list have enjoyed the education. LOL

Teri Johnston
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