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From: "Wayne Fugitt" <cwa...@netdoor.com>
To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 10:28 AM
Subject: CS>More Science Efforts to make CS, Maybe
This is the bug bear for me Wayne because although I keep saying that I want
to keep things simple, without all the scientific mumbo jumbo, I still get
sucked in to a damn 'learn more' thing!! It would be so much simpler if I
could just let it go and leave it alone...ie; make CS, drink it/use it,
believe it's doing good and just leave it at that, but I have trouble
letting it go, I seem compelled to find out more and to better understand.
[To test that, you will have to make a "Constant Voltage Unit", which can
be done.]
OK...Here we go. The battery unit is just 27V, (the old stock standard
3x9' setup), connected to the two electrodes so I am assuming this would
be a "Constant Voltage" unit. That's right isn't it? Nothing else in the
circuitry.
Here's something I find curious...when I connect a multimeter to the
electrodes on my 24V mains power unit I get a reading of 30V...???? How can
this be so? Why doesn't it read 24V as stated on the power adaptor? If
it's complicated and/or lengthy at all, don't worry about it for now.
[First, you blow my wattage idea and theory, out the window. That is OK
too.]
Sorry, don't know a thing about wattage so I can't comment on that one at
the moment!
[If you maintain Constant Voltage, the current will vary, as you know.]
Yep, got that.
[And your current flow will be EXACTLY backwards from most units in use
today.]
Nup, don't get that. Again, if it's complicated or lengthy, don't worry
about that for now either.
[Highest current at first, and the current will decrease, to a much lesser
current as time goes on, and the batch is finished. .......... whenever that
may be.]
This I don't get as I always understood that the current increased as
conductivity in the water increases proportionate to the amount of silver
being sintered off the electrodes. Have I got this back to front? If not
then I can't make a connection as to why a current limiter would be
necessary as I thought it was the increase in current that allowed the so
called 'current run-away' which results in the build up of residue on one of
the electrodes, (positive, or the anode electrode), hence the introduction
of a 'current limiter' to minimise this.
[OK, Now...It was explained to me that if one uses a 'current limiter' then
they will control, or alter, the amount of voltage available, or vary it if
you like, and if this is so then one will not have the stable voltage
passing to the electrodes. True Indeed.]
So it appears I can log that in as fact.
Now this is the curly part...My understanding of a 'current limiter' is to
ensure you maintain a steady, or "Constant Current" between the electrodes,
regardless of voltage, throughout the production process to avoid the
aforesaid 'run-away' effect. Maybe you could set me straight on that point
a little clearer. Do you get what I mean here...doesn't matter what the
voltage input is but the "Current" will not change, (dependant on what the
limiter rating is). Is that a fair assumption?
[By current limiter, I guess you mean, "Constant Current". I do not
consider them exactly the same.]
From what I have explained here I guess my answer to this would be no,
that's not what I mean. The unit would be 'constant voltage', (as explained
above), but I have not introduced a 'current limiter', which is something I
would need to include in the circuitry.
Neville.
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