OK, job done, now that it seems I have successfully got a few of you at each others throats, I'll just back out now and disappear into the sunset.........No, joking of course. Hey look, of all the explanations and analogies etc I have to work with I do believe I'm building up a picture of how 'things' actually work here. Jeez, if nothing else it certainly has prompted some conversation! I hope you show similar patience and tolerance to the next duma$$ who may decide poke his nose in here.....he will probably need to be sitting back aways from the computer screen just out of reach I suspect! <rather large g>

No, this has been very good, I will continue to go through all that yous' have said. I am starting to get a picture of how it works and am even beginning to understand voltage, current etc and terminologies.

Mike wrote:
[Yep, the actual *things* that flow in this case are electrons that move
from negative to positive through your circuit. "Conventional" current happens to be in the opposite direction of
electron flow]

This, I am going to look at a little more closely. In my language again, I could say...electrons 'flow' one way but current flows in the opposite direction, or perhaps...the positive could be thought of as a 'magnet' maybe, pulling the electrons to the negative while the electrical 'flow' of current actually goes the opposite way...yes?.............hang on a minute, stop there!...is this the 'gliding' thing someone spoke of? current flows in a particular direction which causes electrons to 'slide', 'glide', 'slip' past and be 'forced' if you like, the opposite way......wait for it.......due to the voltage, ie; 'pressure' being applied to those same 'electrons'...yes? So if one is talking about 'current', then that will go one way but if one is talking about 'electrons' then they will go the opposite way, which is why it's hard to get a definitive answer about 'direction' unless it is specified what one is talking about...ie; current or flow!

I eagerly await a reply to this one!

Neville.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm" <s...@asis.com>
To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Thinking about current flow: for Neville


Didit; but other than that small glitch it was an excellent explanation
for Neville's purposes, Props!!

On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 18:59 -0005, M. G. Devour wrote:
Okay, guys, I yield! But if you can come up with *better* imagery
that's intuitive *and* rigorous, I'm all ears! <grin>

Mike D.

> Evening Mike,
>
> At 10:41 AM 9/12/2008, you wrote:
> >The higher the voltage or lower the resistance, then yes, the
> >current will be higher, which means the electrons are moving faster > >in
> >the wire.
>
>    In that case, how can one calculate watts ?
>
>    Measure or guess ?
>
>    Unless I misunderstand it,  ...........
> what you stated disproves ohms law.
>
>    I guess I misunderstand it........  <grin>
>
>    Wayne
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