Thanks, Kathryn. I'm glad to hear you are employing careful controls. You are definitely correct that the HVAC model I'm using would put me at greater risk of introducing undesirable foreign elements into the mix. Another good reason for my concerns about accuracy. Also, my current generator is quite a crude homemade one.
Where do you buy your lab quality DW? Cheers, indi On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:02:18 -0500 Clayton Family <clay...@skypoint.com> wrote: > I am not ignoring your point. Degrees of accuracy in my experience, > range from good enough to several decimal places in a calculation. It > all depends on what one is interested in looking at. In school I had > to write up error calculations that ranged several pages of math > starting from my experiment, then doing the statistical analysis of > the data, using the error ranges of the equipment used, etc. It can > be a very precise and definite number, usually a range. > > The water we get here for laboratory use (in the USA) is pretty darn > good, otherwise the labs would not be able to use it, their > experiments would not work. This is not so true in other countries. > Dee has found, for example, that the distilled water available to her > is not the same quality. Ours is packaged in different bottles, for > one. > > However, others more knowledgable than I am about HV have said that > the high voltage process can introduce many other compounds into the > solution, and requires more controls to circumvent that, like > Marshall mentioned about the oxides of nitrogen (which convert to > silver salts in the solution, which can turn one grey). So your > concerns might be valid for that situation. I do only the low > voltage ( I have gotten into enough trouble fooling around with low > voltage electricity, though I do own a transformer, only 5000 volts). > With the low voltage process, it does take a while to "cook" up a > batch, but it is much easier for me to deal with. There is very > little concern with the atmospheric gasses since the voltage > potential is so low for the silver. > > And I am very aware of the problem of indoor pollution; I am > extremely sensitive to many VOC's esp in the indoor environment. My > environment happen to be better than most (at least I hope so, since > my health depends on it), and it has taken alot of work to get it > this good; takes some to keep it there. > > If you are introducing high voltage, and the possibility of silver > salts or compounds, it sounds like a good thing to be worrying about. > With low voltage, not so much. I was assuming you were making low > voltage, since it is most common around here. > > Best Wishes, Kathryn > > On Oct 21, 2008, at 7:59 PM, indi wrote: > > > On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:35:55 -0500 > > Clayton Family <clay...@skypoint.com> wrote: > > > > > >> I am having a hard time believing that you are such a skeptic that > >> you do not even believe the pure distilled water sold for > >> laboratory use is not really pure water. But maybe that is what > >> you are saying. > >> > > > > No, what I said was exactly this, but you appear to be completely > > ignoring it: > > > > There are degrees of accuracy, of course, with "absolute" being > > unavailable (and Ode has pointed this out before). However, my > > "close enough" standard requires at least accounting for all > > elements present as a base. Otherwise, we wind up with more > > questions than answers, don't you agree? > > One rather obvious example is that many people have been shocked to > > learn the types of indoor pollutants their homes contain -- how can > > we be sure there is nothing but "pure air" in the environment in > > which we operate? From carpets, upholstery, and wall coverings that > > release various gasses, to radon pollution, it's a huge question > > mark whenever we do work like this in the home. When you unseal a > > container at home, what are you exposing it to? And what is the > > effect? And then we supply electrical current, which is an > > excellent catalyst, LOL... Okay, I'll admit I'm a bit neurotic, but > > I'm also quite right about this. > > > > I just want to know what *is* in that solution. Otherwise, what > > good is an EC meter reading? Until I can determine that, I just > > don't see much value in either guessing or calculating PPM, because > > the question "PPM of what?" has not been answered. This is not to > > say that I think anyone is making an inferior solution, merely that > > I want to know more. > > > > > > Cheers, > > indi > > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > >
