The generators I refer to can create acidic water, both as runoff when making alkaline water, and directly when set to make acidic water. (The runoff is alkaline when making acidic water. )

The  more expensive devices have adjustable pH settings.

The bottom line: machines sold as "alkaline water machines" produce acidic water as well. The devices are sometimes also called "ion water" machines.

It had occurred to me that a CS generator changes the pH of the water, though I have never tested that. The essential technology is the same: an anode and a cathode.

The Japanese devices require calcium tablets or powder, I suppose to speed up the process. The extra calcium is supposedly an additional health benefit.

A big difference between EIS water and the water produced by the device I refer to is that the latter produces water of a reduced molecular size. One can drink much more of it without feeling bloated. It's remarkable.




On Monday, Dec 29, 2008, at 20:20 Asia/Tokyo, Ode Coyote wrote:



A CS generator makes Alkaline water as a byproduct...the OH[-] anion produced in a one to one ratio with the Ag[+] silver ion.

"Highly acid" is NOT alkaline [ a base, which is the polar opposite of an acid]

Ode


At 01:52 PM 12/29/2008 +0900, you wrote:
Some years ago a Japanese news channel featured a story about a diabetic man whose foot was likely to be amputated. Gangrene had set in. It looked awful. As he was a laborer, loss of his foot would have meant joblessness.

Instead of amputating, the hospital soaked his foot in highly acidic water. This is made by electrolysis, and is available in drug stores in Japan, and can also be made at home using an "alkaline water machine."

The man's foot was restored to normal within a week or so. Nothing was done but to soak it for a time, then wrap it in sterile cloth.

Drinking the alkaline water throughout the day also helped to regulate his insulin level, and dramatically reduced his need for injections.

The acidic water also worked wonders on bedsores of bedridden persons.

The machines are under $500 in Japan and are widely available. Some can be found on sale for under $300.

I think there would be nothing to lose and much to gain by trying this method.






On Monday, Dec 29, 2008, at 02:16 Asia/Tokyo, Kathy wrote:

My husband has such a wound on his toe, about the size of a nickel. He is diabetic and only 45 y/o. We have tried Indie's recommendation with small improvement. I think the nasal spray is helping, although we had to dilute the DMSO a lot. The infection seems to be gone at this point, but the circulation to the toe is poor.

We will try this out, and we even have an oxygen machine in the house! My only reservation is applying DMSO directly to the wound because there is still some necrotic tissue there. He is getting it debrided every week or two. The topical dressing that seems to work best is glycerine and iodine.

Thank you Brooks, for this information. The doctors want to do bypass surgery on my husband's leg, and we would prefer not to go that route.

Kathy



From:brooks76009 [mailto:brooks76...@lycos.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 11:49 AM
To: Silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Non-healing and Slow-healing skin surface ulcers



I noticed a passing inquiry/observation regarding non-healing skin-surface ulcers. A majority of of non-healing skin-surface ulcers have their origin based upon circulation compromises.....presenting especially in diabetics and advanced cardiovascular insults. During the mid and late 1990s we conducted some very promising evaluations of these conditions and implemented....what proved to be....some effective protocol addresses. Most challenging were the non-healing ulcers affecting Type II diabetics.....and particularly those presenting on the lower leg extremities and feet. By far, the most effective protocol proved to be one involving Colloidal Silver, DMSO and oxygen. Summarizing the protocol: The "self-help" version of this experimental protocol consisted, essentially, of a system for applying 100% oxygen as a surrounding atmosphere of the general environment....after the generous application of a DMSO X Colloidal Silver mixture. The actual procedure is as follows: (The following procedure was designed for insults presenting in all areas below the knee joint) 1. Performed a preliminary application of undiluted, commercial, 3.5% hydrogen peroxide; allowing approximately 3 minutes or until all foaming action has ceased....followed by blotting with clean cotton swab/ball. 2. Generous application of 20 ppm CS (75% by Volume) >>> mixed with full-strength DMSO (10% by Volume)....covering the entire insult area to the point of surface runoff. Note: Be sure the entire treatment field is completely clear of clothing and other obstructions. 3. Next, carefully slip a small transparent garbage bag over the lower leg (below the knee), avoiding physical contact with the injured area and carefully gather the top of the bag just below the knee joint. 4. Next, using any convenient source of pure oxygen, with the end of the hose section terminating in a small plastic tubing.....insert the tubing well inside the garbage bag and secure the top of the bag with a rubber band. 4. Slowly inflate the bag with O2, until the bag is well filled (it will easily inflate at low pressure). Note: The actual pressure is not critical, just keep enough pressure applied to prevent the collapse of the garbage bag. 5. Maintain this arrangement for 15 to 20 minutes. Actually, we found that the 02 leakage rates to be quite slow, ! usually allowing us to cut off the pressure valve for extended periods (more than 5 minutes), before the inflated bag became sufficiently deflated to require additional pressure. This simple protocol was most impressive in the positive results yielded against some of the most intractable slow or non-healing ulcers.....some of quite long-standing nature (over 6 months). In most cases, twice-daily procedures resulted in size-increase stoppages within 5 days and generation of new wound-edge granulation of tissue beginning within 7 to 10 days. This, many times, in cases where the ulcers had increased from "match-head" size to that of a silver dollar....over a period of 6 months plus. In approximately 80% of these cases, complete healing occurred within 4 to six weeks-----usually depending upon the actual physical size of the > ulcer. One of the most gratifying results was one case involving a Type II diabetic who had an ulcer of over 2" in diameter and two years in age...which had, progressively increased in size while, simultaneously resisting ALL conventional treatments employed by the allopathic community. Some of the list members may be interested in evaluating this protocol in their experimental researches. Please be advised that none of our research protocols are intended as direct treatment for ANY existing medical condition. We DO NOT PRACTICE MEDICINE....in any form.
Sincerely, Brooks Bradley/
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