The article gives an explanation as to why elderberry is not recommended.
Elderberry juice (Sambucal) - AVOID - Increases production of
cytokines TNF-a and IL-6. This substance is very effective against
the common flu but may not be desirable for the H5N1 virus. Increases
in these cytokines may trigger a lethal cytokine storm. (Isr Med
Journal2002 Nov;4:944-6)
At 06:32 PM 2/05/2009, you wrote:
I don't know why that could be, when Elderberries work on most every
other virus. I've read other places that recommend it. Anyways, I
ordered mine a month ago, before all this Swine flu stuff came up.
I've used Elderberries for a long time during cold/flu season. And
now, with my CS maker, I should be set.
Annie
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Hanneke
<<mailto:bloss...@internode.on.net>bloss...@internode.on.net> wrote:
According to this
article
<http://www.the-health-gazette.com/health-gazette-blog/alternative-medicine/natural-antivirals>http://www.the-health-gazette.com/health-gazette-blog/alternative-medicine/natural-antivirals
both Echinacea and elderberries are on the list not advised for
H5N1 infections
At 07:42 PM 1/05/2009, you wrote:
Delurking for a bit.
I just bought a couple of pounds of dried organic Elderberries and
organic Echinacea, to make teas, and syrups with. The Elderberries
work great for me with cold and flu viruses. Sambucol used to be
very good until the company was sold. Then the new company started
adding all kinds of junk to it. I still don't understand what made
the original company sell out. And MSM helps me with with breathing.
Annie
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Clayton Family
<<mailto:clay...@skypoint.com>clay...@skypoint.com> wrote:
We used to use some Chinese Medicine pills (herbal), and ended up
getting some more last winter. It was too late for me, but the
others in the family took them, and it helped reduce the severity.
They were not laid up as long as I was. One son never did get it,
one son got it but took the Gan Mao Ling and recovered quickly (a
few days), my husband got it and was down for less than a week. He
and I had some pretty long lasting fatigue from it.
They are called "Gan Mao Ling", are round yellow pills, and I get
the bottles of 100, for maybe 6 dollars or so at the Chinese
grocery. The dosage is on the bottle. We usually take a double
dose for the first one, and I think it is 3 or 4 times a day. I
know many many people that use this remedy successfully. It has to
be taken at the first sign - if you wait longer than a day or maybe
2 at the most, it won't work. This was our standard remedy for
over a decade before I heard of silver.
Kathryn
On Apr 28, 2009, at 5:44 PM, Dianne France wrote:
Bob
I did MMS ever four hours (6 drops) for several days along with
the 5ppms of silver, same dose times. The only thing it did was
make me very miserable making quick trips to the bathroom. The
thing that seemed to stimulate everything into working was the
addition of DMSO. It was the worst flu I have ever experienced,
was sick two months. I think you are right about using a higher PPM.
Dianne
From: <mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net>bbane...@earthlink.net
To: <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>PPM
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:39:03 -0700
Dianne,
10ppm should do the trick but I wouldn't rely on silver
only. Silver will inactivate any virus or bug, but it has to come
into contact with the particle for it to work. I'd take other
things along with the silver... allicin is a wonderful anti-viral as is MMS.
Bob
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