Ahhh, OK.. that makes sense now. I can live with that. I'll have to find
something else to use for Swine Flu. But how in the world do you tell what
kind of flu you have? Now that's the poser.

On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 4:08 AM, Hanneke <bloss...@internode.on.net> wrote:

>  The article gives an explanation as to why elderberry is not recommended.
>
> Elderberry juice (Sambucal) - AVOID - Increases production of cytokines
> TNF-a and IL-6. This substance is very effective against the common flu but
> may not be desirable for the H5N1 virus. Increases in these cytokines may
> trigger a lethal cytokine storm. (Isr Med Journal2002 Nov;4:944-6)
>
>
> At 06:32 PM 2/05/2009, you wrote:
>
> I don't know why that could be, when Elderberries work on most every other
> virus. I've read other places that recommend it. Anyways, I ordered mine a
> month ago, before all this Swine flu stuff came up. I've used Elderberries
> for a long time during cold/flu season. And now, with my CS maker, I should
> be set.
>
> Annie
>
> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Hanneke < bloss...@internode.on.net>
> wrote:
>  According to this article
> http://www.the-health-gazette.com/health-gazette-blog/alternative-medicine/natural-antivirals
> both Echinacea and elderberries are on the list not  advised for H5N1
> infections
>
>
> At 07:42 PM 1/05/2009, you wrote:
>
> Delurking for a bit.
>
> I just bought a couple of pounds of dried organic Elderberries and organic
> Echinacea, to make teas, and syrups with. The Elderberries work great for me
> with cold and flu viruses. Sambucol used to be very good until the company
> was sold. Then the new company started adding all kinds of junk to it. I
> still don't understand what made the original company sell out. And MSM
> helps me with with breathing.
>
> Annie
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Clayton Family <clay...@skypoint.com>
> wrote: We used to use some Chinese Medicine pills (herbal), and ended up
> getting some more last winter. It was too late for me, but the others in the
> family took them, and it helped reduce the severity. They were not laid up
> as long as I was. One son never did get it, one son got it but took the Gan
> Mao Ling and recovered quickly (a few days), my husband got it and was down
> for less than a week. He and I had some pretty long lasting fatigue from it.
> They are called "Gan Mao Ling", are round yellow pills, and I get the
> bottles of 100, for maybe 6 dollars or so at the Chinese grocery.  The
> dosage is on the bottle. We usually take a double dose for the first one,
> and I think it is 3 or 4 times a day. I know many many people that use this
> remedy successfully. It has to be taken at the first sign - if you wait
> longer than a day or maybe 2 at  the most, it won't work. This was our
> standard remedy for over a decade before I heard of silver.
> Kathryn
> On Apr 28, 2009, at 5:44 PM, Dianne France wrote:
>
>   Bob    I did MMS ever four hours (6 drops) for several days along with
> the 5ppms of silver, same dose times.  The only thing it did was make me
> very miserable making quick trips to the bathroom.  The thing that seemed to
> stimulate everything into working was the addition of DMSO.  It was the
> worst flu I have ever experienced, was sick two months.  I think you are
> right about using a higher PPM.    Dianne    From: bbane...@earthlink.net To:
> silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>PPM Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:39:03
> -0700
> Dianne,           10ppm should do the trick but I wouldn't rely on silver
> only.  Silver will inactivate any virus or bug, but it has to come into
> contact with the particle for it to work.  I'd take other things along with
> the silver... allicin is a wonderful anti-viral as is MMS.            Bob
>
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