Jim Thank you for such a good explaination. I am not going to do any HVAC but you post adds to my general understanding of what and how things work. God bless you and yours, Bob
On Sat, 11 September 1999, Jim wrote: > > At this time (at my level of experience) it seems that the amp density issue > is > just as important in making hvcs as lvcs. With a hanging electrode, you would > literally have to have to lower the electrode as the conductivity of the cs > increases due to concentration and temp rise. I have done this with some > success, but it is not very controllable when using just the end of a wire > electrode for surface area. Can't really use a current limiting rout because > the electrode end erodes too fast, and the water evaporates too fast to keep > the same wetted surface area for long. That is basically why the commercial > hvcs machines have their cs concentration limits. > > Manually adjusting the electrode down during the run with a hand screw setup > works well, but controlling the actual amp density is still a guessing game. > > A person who is willing to sit and watch every batch could probably get the > feel of how to adjust the electrode and make higher ppm cs. However, by using > more wetted surface area and a bigger transformer and actually being able to > sink the electrode into the water, a person could control the process more > easily. My suggestion for making high ppm hvcs is to have a large enough > power > supply to sink a known wetted area of silver into the water, and move the > electrodes apart as the concentration rises to keep the same current density. > It would require quite a power supply, and while I don't get too concerned > with > the commercial hvac generators as far as safety, the size of power supply > needed to achieve the above system would be more than I would suggest someone > tackle without some real high volt training and experience. > > But, with a way to calibrate the wetted surface area once in a while, my > experimentation shows this will work very well. It will probably be my next > cs > generations system. Fast and furious hvcs and whatever ppm we find to be the > system limits. > > As far as speeding up your current setup, you can heat water, but be warned > that unless you sink the electrodes lower, and even into the water, you will > make larger particles than you probably want. If you use hot water, it also > changes the temp stratification that happens in the cs brew tank, and you will > have to play with it to get the feel of how to operate. Batch tank size and > shape mean a lot when making hvcs, and the temperature buildup at the surface > of the water will be a different depth and temperature, changing the > conductivity of the sol in the area of the electrodes. Stirring may be in > order, but it really changes how your setup will run, and you will have to > learn all over again what ppm to expect for a given run time. > > I spent a lot of time trying to speed up my CS Pro system. I did make some > progress, but not a whole lot. The reason being, the faster you make cs, the > faster the electrode erodes, the faster the water evaporates, the faster > things > get out of adjustment. To increase productivity really takes a re-engineering > from scratch. > > Jim > > JD Klein wrote: > > > Does anyone know how to make higher concentrations of CS using a High > > Voltage (15,000 volt) set up? > > > > Is anyone familiar with a product called Silverdyne? It is dark yellow > > brown, not transluscent, but solid colored. I think they claim a > > concentration of 0.036% silver. > > > > My apparatus produces approximately 3.5 liters of 10ppm product in 2.5 > > hours. > > > > I am interested in reducing the time as well as increasing the > > concentration. Some products are claiming 50ppm, 100ppm, 500ppm, and even > > 1100 ppm. > > > > I use steam distilled water with 2 ounces of starter from a previous batch. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > thanks, > > > > j...@writeme.com tainer: Mike Devour Third Ager [thurd-aij-er] n. 1. grown-up; 2. rule-breaker; 3. someone in the best years of their life. See also: Boomer. http://www.thirdage.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@id.net>
