Tom,
What was the color of your solution before and after adding ascorbic
acid? Did the color change after the precipitated occurred?
Thanks,
    Steve N

-----Original Message-----
From: poast [mailto:po...@prodigy.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 9:10 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Making 100% colloidal EIS

Hello Marshall,

Some additional information...

My EIS ends up with a PH of 6.5.  The solution that I added the ascorbic
acid to ended up with a PH of 3.5.

I know that some reactions are sensitive to PH, so an idea would be to
pick
a PH target and add only as much ascorbic acid as is needed to reduce
the PH
of the solution to the target value.

I used a "pinch" of ascorbic acid in 250 ml of EIS.  I have measuring
spoons
that measure a drop, smidgen, pinch, dash, and tad.  In liquid
measurement a
pinch is 0.3125 ml.  I just measured a pinch of ascorbic acid and it
came in
at 0.31 grams.

Too much?  Too little?  Normal reaction?

Tom


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marshall Dudley" <mdud...@king-cart.com>
To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Making 100% colloidal EIS


> That is some good information.  I was wondering if the addition of
> ascorbic acid would cause 1 and 2 atom colloid, or if it would
> precipitate out on the particles that are already there, that
indicates
> that at least some of them precipitate out on other particles making
the
> rather large.  The other possibility would be that the remaining
> ascorbic acid made the solution acid enough to make the colloid
> unstable.  I need to test and see if I neutralize the free acid if the
> same thing happens.
>
> Marshall
>
> poast wrote:
> > Hello Marshall,
> >
> > 3 days ago I put a pinch of ascorbic acid in some EIS and have
stored
this
> > solution in a white 250 ml HDPE bottle.  I took the lid off this
morning
and
> > noticed that some of the silver had precipitated out.  I shook the
bottle
> > and it went back into solution.
> >
> > There wasn't a large quantity, but against the white bottom it was
evident
> > that there was some.
> >
> > I am using the SG6.  My EIS comes out at around 15 uS, then settles
down
to
> > about 11.5 uS in a few days.
> >
> > Tom


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