Ode, What you seem to describe is a well known effect of surface adsorption.
It is true that glass and many other surfaces exhibit the property of
attracting and retaining organic molecules much in the same way as charcoal
and zeolites perform. However this is a surface phenomena ( several
molecular layers thick) and it is far from "Glass isn't as "waterproof" as
we think it is and just like oil will migrate though cast iron, various
things will migrate through glass in either direction"
The permeability of glass is such that is used to contain the smallest
molecules (hydrogen) at high pressures. It is also used to hold high vacuum
values for years (forever, really) Glass is impermeable to any common fluid.
Hydrofluoric acid is the only compound that reacts chemically with glass but
nothing migrates through.
The difficulty in eliminating traces of any prior contents in glass can be
eliminated by using aqua regia a mixture of 3 parts of Hydrochloric and one
part of Nitric acids and allow to stand for a couple of hours and rinse
thoroughly with distilled water. If necessary the mixture can be heated to
70-80C. Proceed with caution this blend is highly corrosive.
Cheers
Frank
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From: "Ode Coyote" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 2:10 AM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: CS>Using pickle jars and virgin glass jars to make colloidal
silver ---
You'd have to search for "scientific" proof if that's what you want.
Experiential proof on multiple occasions is enough for me.
Take a vodka bottle, rinse it in cold water to remove all left over
vodka, then put it in hot water for a few minutes and hold a match to the
opening.
But be careful or the blow torch will take a big area of skin off your
hand...found out the hard way.
Every try to get rid of the old beer smell out of a beer bottle?
Or the Coke flavor out of a Coke bottle?
All these things are water soluble and rinsing, even washing with
detergent, should remove them immediately, but it doesn't.
You can, however, eventually leach the stuff back out of the glass, at
least to undetectable levels.
ode
At 06:30 AM 5/21/2010 -0700, you wrote:
Dear Ode, Any scientific proof of common household items "migrating"
through glass?
Frank
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From: "Ode Coyote" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 5:41 AM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: CS>Using pickle jars and virgin glass jars to make colloidal
silver ---
Right.
Glass isn't as "waterproof" as we think it is and just like oil will
migrate though cast iron, various things will migrate through glass in
either direction.
ode
At 07:11 PM 5/20/2010 -0400, you wrote:
It's not that the glass absorbs ions, but that it releases contaminants
that react with ions.
Vinegar and ionic silver forms Silver Acetate which is actually more
soluble in water than plain silver ions and shouldn't be a big problem,
but whatever else that's in Kim Chee could be.
Ode
Just so I have it right.
You nice glass jar is absorbing contaminants from the pickles, olives,
spaghetti sauce packed in it
Then when the glass jar is washed out with soap and water these
contaminants remain in the glass even though you jar looks nice and
clean. And these contaminants will go into your colloidal silver water
and react with the ions in it. So you get less than optimum results.
Is this right?
Garrick
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