Ron, Another bit of info from my urologist, - and I have great faith in him as he is considered by everyone I've talked to to be one of the top 50 in the entire U.S - - -
The idea is to establish a balanced flora of bacteria in the bladder that maintain a more beneficial environment, and limit not only their own tendencies toward overgrowth but also resist the intrusion of other bugs which could be much more harmful. This also tends to eliminate the seesaw effect of killing off the bacteria and "inviting in" the yeasts who are more than willing to move in in strength. Getting rid of yeasts and fungi can be a real nightmare, involving some pretty toxic substances. It seems you already have the correct idea on this, don't medicate just on the basis of cloudy urine unless it gets bad, and/or other clues let you know this is a bad one; I rely on the urine's odor and my overall feeling of sickness and aggravation as well as the amount and location of the cloudiness. By that I mean that there is a tendency for sediment (usually pretty harmless stuff) to settle toward the bottom of the bladder, and a concentration at the end of the stream is not so big a concern to me as consistent murky presence throughout. I keep a clean shot-glass next to the toilet to catch a sample whenever I need to check it out. HTH, Malcolm On Mon, 2014-05-26 at 05:33 -0800, Ron wrote: > Mahvalus Malcolm, > I didn't really expect to hear from anybody that knew about it first hand. > Well I won't try it unless my temperature goes up which tells me the > infection is serious and that the bacteria (which will always be > present) have reached 'critical mass'. Gotta get away from antibiotics > somehow. > My urologist? I asked him by leaving the question with his office. He > did not even return my call. > In the meantime I'll try steam distilled water. > > Ron > > On 5/25/2014 3:50 PM, Malcolm wrote: > > Hey Ron, > > I've had a neurogenic bladder for 49 years, spinal cord injury. I tried > > CS into the bladder through my cath - Not a good idea, stung like crazy > > and did no good for the infection. I later discussed this with my > > urologist who told me flat out, don't do it, it doesn't work. > > Word to the wise. I know, YMMV, but I doubt it. > > Consider also that most of the antibiotics reach the bladder through the > > bloodstream, i.e. from the outside, and one of the most effective > > irrigations is plain PURE STERILE water which gets the bugs through > > osmotic pressure - blows them up. > > Take care, Malcolm > > > > On Sun, 2014-05-25 at 12:31 -0800, Ron wrote: > >> Trying again. > >> I just sent this but it did not seem to go anywhere except to my sent mail. > >> > >> No exotic bugs :-) > >> I should have said that although the usual reason for men to catheterize > >> is enlarged prostate (BPH) but in my case it is a stretched and large > >> dysfunctional bladder that makes it difficult for meds coming in from > >> the kidneys to actually touch all of the surfaces of the bladder which I > >> guess might explain the seemingly high residual bacteria count and is > >> the reason I wanted to go the opposite route. > >> Now, from all these great replies here, I will think about what to pre > >> flush the bladder with before doing the CS. > >> Really great! > >> > >> Ron > >> > >> --- > >> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > >> protection is active. > >> http://www.avast.com > >> > >> > >> -- > >> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > >> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > >> > >> Unsubscribe: > >> <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> > >> Archives: > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html > >> > >> Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> > >> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > >
