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From: Tim Cudzilo <t...@primenet.com>

>snip<
> Eventually, (and hopefully) this "list" will recognize the the
maximum
> effacy of
> suspended silver solutions is in the charge of the solution.

Oh man, where have you been? Do you think we don't realise that by
sending a current through a couple of silver electrodes immersed in
water that charged silver particles enter the water. The Ag+ particles
give the solution its charge. Chemical reactions take place between
charged atoms and complexes.

 > I don't read all the tripe, but I have yet to see any reference to
an
> electroscope.

Thats because, like you, we have moved on from 4th grade science. If
you want to know if your solution has a charge, dip your
millivoltmeter electrodes in it.

> Like it or not folks, finely divided silver IS sensitive to light.

Not strictly true. Certain wavelengths of light have enough energy to
cause a change in charge state of silver ions.

> Internally, ANY silver is better than NO silver.
>
> CS as you refer to it, is not a colloid at all.
>
> Any silver particle in a suspension of pure H2o is heavier than the
> suspending medium.
>
> In lay terms, a true colloid would be a jar full of pink fish eggs.
If one
> were to pick a few
> eggs, inject them with a blue color and a grain of sand to make them
> heavier than the  rest,
> and put them back, - that would be a true colloid.

Are you making this up?
Shaving cream is a colloidal system, as is beer, milk, mayonaise.
The definition of a colloidal system is "small 'particles' of one
substance distributed more or less uniformly throughout another. This
latter phase is continuous whilst the 'particles' are discontinuous.
The continuous phase may be a gas, liquid, or solid whilst the
discontinuous phase may also be a gas, liquid or solid. The system
will be colloidal if the 'particles' are sufficiently small and that
usually means less than about 1um in at least one important
dimension."  - Introduction to Modern Colloid Science...Hunter.

Whilst colloidal silver systems, properly called silver sols or
colloidal sols, approach the dimensions of true solutions and exhibit
little or no difference from true solutions, they are regarded as
colloidal if the size of the particle falls between 1 - 1000 nm.

> They would stay in apparent suspension. even though they were
heavier (
> because of the sand), because the slight increase in weight is not
enough
> to displace pink fish eggs around them.  If the container were
vibrated,
> they would eventually reach the bottom. Gravity rules.

That is because fish eggs do not fit the colloidal dimension.
The particles in colloidal silver will be denser at the bottom of the
solution than at the top, due to gravity, by a very small degree.
You have no understanding of the complex interaction of forces at work
which keep particles suspended in a collodal system.

> Very fine suspensions of silver will all eventually settle out.  The
silver
> particles bump into water molecules, like bumpers on a pinball
machine.
> The smaller the particles, the longer it takes. It will happen
eventually.

This is probably true, but I have litres of light yellow cs that have
no fall out after 15 months and still retain the same charge.

> If the silver particles have like charges however, they will
continually
> repel each other,
> or "swim".  As long as they remain charged, they are viable
"swimmers".
>
> The nature of things is that all charged "things" seek equilibrium.
>
> Equilibrium can be reached by giving up a charge, to reach
stability.

Stability or equalibrium does not require the giving up of charge.

> If a photon (light), strikes a particle, that impact is sufficient
to
> change (or in this case nullify)
> a positive charge on a silver particle.

A photon is what? Why would this 'photon' strike a silver particle and
not a water molecule through which it must travel?
Far ultraviolet light has enough energy to alter the water in such a
way as to have an effect on the positive silver charge(reduction).
Incidental light does not.

> At that point, it becomes just a hunk of silver.
>
> Everyone in this group should be familiar with the mechanics of
oxidation.

Positively charged silver particles are already oxidised (lost an
electron).

> In many ways,  what I have seen in this group is exactly akin to
worming
> your dog.
>
> You eat enough to kill ( or slow down ) the offender, but not enough
to
> kill the host.

> Which, is fine.  Your immune system needs all the help it can get.

Phew!

> You would all do well to test the charge of your "solutions".

With an electroscope?

Regards - Ivan



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