----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Cudzilo <t...@primenet.com> >snip< > Eventually, (and hopefully) this "list" will recognize the the maximum > effacy of > suspended silver solutions is in the charge of the solution.
Oh man, where have you been? Do you think we don't realise that by sending a current through a couple of silver electrodes immersed in water that charged silver particles enter the water. The Ag+ particles give the solution its charge. Chemical reactions take place between charged atoms and complexes. > I don't read all the tripe, but I have yet to see any reference to an > electroscope. Thats because, like you, we have moved on from 4th grade science. If you want to know if your solution has a charge, dip your millivoltmeter electrodes in it. > Like it or not folks, finely divided silver IS sensitive to light. Not strictly true. Certain wavelengths of light have enough energy to cause a change in charge state of silver ions. > Internally, ANY silver is better than NO silver. > > CS as you refer to it, is not a colloid at all. > > Any silver particle in a suspension of pure H2o is heavier than the > suspending medium. > > In lay terms, a true colloid would be a jar full of pink fish eggs. If one > were to pick a few > eggs, inject them with a blue color and a grain of sand to make them > heavier than the rest, > and put them back, - that would be a true colloid. Are you making this up? Shaving cream is a colloidal system, as is beer, milk, mayonaise. The definition of a colloidal system is "small 'particles' of one substance distributed more or less uniformly throughout another. This latter phase is continuous whilst the 'particles' are discontinuous. The continuous phase may be a gas, liquid, or solid whilst the discontinuous phase may also be a gas, liquid or solid. The system will be colloidal if the 'particles' are sufficiently small and that usually means less than about 1um in at least one important dimension." - Introduction to Modern Colloid Science...Hunter. Whilst colloidal silver systems, properly called silver sols or colloidal sols, approach the dimensions of true solutions and exhibit little or no difference from true solutions, they are regarded as colloidal if the size of the particle falls between 1 - 1000 nm. > They would stay in apparent suspension. even though they were heavier ( > because of the sand), because the slight increase in weight is not enough > to displace pink fish eggs around them. If the container were vibrated, > they would eventually reach the bottom. Gravity rules. That is because fish eggs do not fit the colloidal dimension. The particles in colloidal silver will be denser at the bottom of the solution than at the top, due to gravity, by a very small degree. You have no understanding of the complex interaction of forces at work which keep particles suspended in a collodal system. > Very fine suspensions of silver will all eventually settle out. The silver > particles bump into water molecules, like bumpers on a pinball machine. > The smaller the particles, the longer it takes. It will happen eventually. This is probably true, but I have litres of light yellow cs that have no fall out after 15 months and still retain the same charge. > If the silver particles have like charges however, they will continually > repel each other, > or "swim". As long as they remain charged, they are viable "swimmers". > > The nature of things is that all charged "things" seek equilibrium. > > Equilibrium can be reached by giving up a charge, to reach stability. Stability or equalibrium does not require the giving up of charge. > If a photon (light), strikes a particle, that impact is sufficient to > change (or in this case nullify) > a positive charge on a silver particle. A photon is what? Why would this 'photon' strike a silver particle and not a water molecule through which it must travel? Far ultraviolet light has enough energy to alter the water in such a way as to have an effect on the positive silver charge(reduction). Incidental light does not. > At that point, it becomes just a hunk of silver. > > Everyone in this group should be familiar with the mechanics of oxidation. Positively charged silver particles are already oxidised (lost an electron). > In many ways, what I have seen in this group is exactly akin to worming > your dog. > > You eat enough to kill ( or slow down ) the offender, but not enough to > kill the host. > Which, is fine. Your immune system needs all the help it can get. Phew! > You would all do well to test the charge of your "solutions". With an electroscope? Regards - Ivan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@id.net>