Dear Silver listers, Please unsubscribe me fot the time being, as I am getting too busy to keep up with the list. I hope to be back soon, and thanks to you all for the informative and interesting postings. Best regards, Cindy -----Original Message----- From: Ivan Anderson <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 4:32 AM Subject: CS>Colloid? was baking soda
> >----- Original Message ----- >From: Tim Cudzilo <[email protected]> > >>snip< >> Eventually, (and hopefully) this "list" will recognize the the >maximum >> effacy of >> suspended silver solutions is in the charge of the solution. > >Oh man, where have you been? Do you think we don't realise that by >sending a current through a couple of silver electrodes immersed in >water that charged silver particles enter the water. The Ag+ particles >give the solution its charge. Chemical reactions take place between >charged atoms and complexes. > > > I don't read all the tripe, but I have yet to see any reference to >an >> electroscope. > >Thats because, like you, we have moved on from 4th grade science. If >you want to know if your solution has a charge, dip your >millivoltmeter electrodes in it. > >> Like it or not folks, finely divided silver IS sensitive to light. > >Not strictly true. Certain wavelengths of light have enough energy to >cause a change in charge state of silver ions. > >> Internally, ANY silver is better than NO silver. >> >> CS as you refer to it, is not a colloid at all. >> >> Any silver particle in a suspension of pure H2o is heavier than the >> suspending medium. >> >> In lay terms, a true colloid would be a jar full of pink fish eggs. >If one >> were to pick a few >> eggs, inject them with a blue color and a grain of sand to make them >> heavier than the rest, >> and put them back, - that would be a true colloid. > >Are you making this up? >Shaving cream is a colloidal system, as is beer, milk, mayonaise. >The definition of a colloidal system is "small 'particles' of one >substance distributed more or less uniformly throughout another. This >latter phase is continuous whilst the 'particles' are discontinuous. >The continuous phase may be a gas, liquid, or solid whilst the >discontinuous phase may also be a gas, liquid or solid. The system >will be colloidal if the 'particles' are sufficiently small and that >usually means less than about 1um in at least one important >dimension." - Introduction to Modern Colloid Science...Hunter. > >Whilst colloidal silver systems, properly called silver sols or >colloidal sols, approach the dimensions of true solutions and exhibit >little or no difference from true solutions, they are regarded as >colloidal if the size of the particle falls between 1 - 1000 nm. > >> They would stay in apparent suspension. even though they were >heavier ( >> because of the sand), because the slight increase in weight is not >enough >> to displace pink fish eggs around them. If the container were >vibrated, >> they would eventually reach the bottom. Gravity rules. > >That is because fish eggs do not fit the colloidal dimension. >The particles in colloidal silver will be denser at the bottom of the >solution than at the top, due to gravity, by a very small degree. >You have no understanding of the complex interaction of forces at work >which keep particles suspended in a collodal system. > >> Very fine suspensions of silver will all eventually settle out. The >silver >> particles bump into water molecules, like bumpers on a pinball >machine. >> The smaller the particles, the longer it takes. It will happen >eventually. > >This is probably true, but I have litres of light yellow cs that have >no fall out after 15 months and still retain the same charge. > >> If the silver particles have like charges however, they will >continually >> repel each other, >> or "swim". As long as they remain charged, they are viable >"swimmers". >> >> The nature of things is that all charged "things" seek equilibrium. >> >> Equilibrium can be reached by giving up a charge, to reach >stability. > >Stability or equalibrium does not require the giving up of charge. > >> If a photon (light), strikes a particle, that impact is sufficient >to >> change (or in this case nullify) >> a positive charge on a silver particle. > >A photon is what? Why would this 'photon' strike a silver particle and >not a water molecule through which it must travel? >Far ultraviolet light has enough energy to alter the water in such a >way as to have an effect on the positive silver charge(reduction). >Incidental light does not. > >> At that point, it becomes just a hunk of silver. >> >> Everyone in this group should be familiar with the mechanics of >oxidation. > >Positively charged silver particles are already oxidised (lost an >electron). > >> In many ways, what I have seen in this group is exactly akin to >worming >> your dog. >> >> You eat enough to kill ( or slow down ) the offender, but not enough >to >> kill the host. > >> Which, is fine. Your immune system needs all the help it can get. > >Phew! > >> You would all do well to test the charge of your "solutions". > >With an electroscope? > >Regards - Ivan > > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >[email protected] -or- [email protected] >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: [email protected] > >List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> > >
