Hi Neville:
Nah, it's always good to discuss things. I've been an idiot more times
than I can count. :o)
...in fact, I'm making my own "mess-o-silver" tonight for an experiment
I'm doing; first time I've used rounded electrodes in quite awhile, and
after six hours of brewing I'm cringing at the state of the anode.
Removed them both, wiped them down, cringed again at the silver flake
deposits left on top of the water... I'm pushing for as close to 24 PPM
ionic silver as I can get (agglomeration will start quickly after
finishing); the end product will be deeply golden with a lot of sparklies.
I'll decant the EIS leaving the top and bottom 1/4 or so alone, and then
I'll add just a touch of 35% H2O2, shake well and set for about ten
minutes, then take what will most likely be a grey/black mess-o-silver
and mix it 2:1 silver to clay to make a clay gel. I'll let oxidation
set in, and let the clay set and reduce down just a touch via evaporation...
...then I'll drink 1 tbs of sodium bicarbonate water on an empty stomach
(neutralize any stomach acid), and take a 1 tbs scoop of the clay gel
and wash it down while still in gel state. The alkaline clay should,
theoretically, be at least partially bile resistant; end result is the
possibility of carrying "more" bioactive EIS directly into the upper and
lower digestive tract.
Afterwards, I'll most likely shrug to myself and say "well, that was
interesting."
...and I'll end up with about two gallons of this clay gel, which I'll
label, seal up in a glass container, and store away in the event I ever
run across a serious infection in the mid to lower digestive tract, or
even an external infection.
I might even try a similar experiment with micronized zeolite, who knows.
~Jason
On 2/17/2015 6:46 PM, Neville wrote:
Sorry Jason, don't know anything about flat electrodes. Praps I
shouldn't have said anything. You know the old saying, "Rather not say
anything and let people think you're an idiot, than open your mouth and
remove all doubt"...LOL.
Thanks for your insight regarding pads.
Well here's one hypothesis, the suspected poor quality DW used on that
occasion, in combination with the stir bar spinning action, may have
developed a situation whereby whilst in storage some silver was pulled
to the centre where the stir bar spun? Cross contamination? I know
silver is not magnetic, but who knows if other unknown contaminants in
the DW may have combined to encourage that end result? I don't know,
perhaps a magnetic field was created, again with the combination of
impurities in that particular batch of DW, created an opening/situation
for some "reaction?" or agglomeration or "something?" to take place, and
to take place *only* where the stir bar was situated?
What confounded me was the fact that it not only occurred once, it
occurred twice after filtering and cleaning that storage vessel out?
Another of life's mysteries I guess.
Cheers
N.
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 17:50:02 -0800
> From: ja...@eytonsearth.org
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Electrode cleaning?
>
> Hi Neville:
>
> I remember reading your initial post and being puzzled by it, but not
> having anything of value to contribute.
>
> As far as scrub pads contaminating pure silver, since silver is way
> softer than steel, risk fo contamination is low unless you think
> cleaning the silver is a sanding project.
>
> You make my point. I myself use a plastic scrubber for my
> straight/rounded electrodes, and have no problem. The point of using an
> abrasive is to eliminate or reduce the electrode degradation, which is a
> significant issue in my opinion, as far as it effects the brewing
> process. You might be able to get away with using a paper towel to
> clean electrodes, but you also might be surprised at the amount of
> jagged edges are actually created on the silver electrode in the
> standard "home brew" setup, over time.
>
> Cleaning my Silvergen SG7 electrodes is much more involved. Luckily,
> the degradation of the electrodes is very minimal due to the reverse
> polarity used and the rapid water circulation. I have to use makeup
> removers, which are made from a dense cotton, similar in shape to Q-Tips.
>
> Since these are flat electrodes, ***the silver oxide particles that do
> build up*** on the electrodes provides enough abrasion to reproduce a
> completely smooth surface on the electrodes, thanks to the perfect
> design of the electrode configuration.
>
> ~Jason
>
>
>
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