Hello Marshall,

----- Original Message -----
From: Marshall Dudley <mdud...@execonn.com>
To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
Sent: Friday, 5 November 1999 04:06
Subject: Re: CS>round conductive pot idea


> Ivan Anderson wrote:
>
> > Hi Marshal, James H-M,
> >
> > I believe that the silver, which has been disassociated during
> > generation at low current density, exist as single silver ions not
> > clumps.
> > It is not until the power is withdrawn that the ions flocculate
into
> > stable clusters of multi-ion particles.
>
> This can be easily disproved by shining a laser thought the water
while
> it is being made.  If they were ions, there would be no Tyndall.
But if
> you do it you will see the Tyndall build up continuously until you
remove
> the power, at which time it stabalizes.

Well that is just the thing, I have no Tyndal effect until well after
the power is withdrawn.

> Since the ions are all positively charged, they would mutually repel
each
> other.  What force would bring to together to flocculate with each
other
> once the current is removed?

Van de Waals force is a long range attractive force occuring between
any two particles of the same material and is present in all lyophobic
sols. The electrostatic repulsion which opposes aggrigation, and the
attractive force which acts to bind particles together if they come
into close enough contact, is explained by the DLVO theory.
>
> > I remember Bob Lee saying
> > something along these lines, some time ago.
> > In electroplating a silver anode is used to replace the silver
ions
> > deposited at the cathode. There are many parameters which are
> > manipulated in silver plating to provide a smooth shiny finish,
not
> > least being the metal that the silver is being deposited on.
>
> In the case of silver plating, then the liquid will have silver
cyanide,
> silver nitrate, or other water soluable silver compound dissolved in
it.
> In that case then the silver does indeed travel as ions.  But we
have
> already deteremined that if you have salts involved you get
compounds of
> silver and that is why you want only distilled water.

The point is, that the initial supply of silver ions, as supplied by
the dissolved silver salt, is depleated in plating the cathodic
objects, but, is resupplied by the dissolution of the silver anode as
silver ions into the solution, not as clumps. In other words, I
suspect the same ionic dissolution of the siver anode takes place in
distilled water, in low current DC systems.

> Marshall

Regards
Ivan



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