Hi Fred,
Will you provide your reasoning and data for the statement:
"HVAC produces an inferior product - non-ionic and non-colloidal.
(although possibly better for topical uses due to the high PPM
possible!)"?
Also, I am very interested in how to obtain high PPM HVAC sol. What do you
call "high" PPM.
The LV stuff I used to make was effective, but had only about a 30 day life
before a large amount of it fell out. I presume its particle size was
rapidly increasing, and available silver was decreasing. This does not
happen with the HV sol. Nor has any of it ever changed color if clear when
made.
Regarding cone formation, could you give a little more detail about the
"...very powerful electrostatic forces."?
Would you explain the relationship between 60 Hz and "static"?
The HV process has many advantages, the cones are fun to watch, but be
careful, staring at them for extended periods when stoned can make your
eyes twitch afterwards. But my fave is the blue sparks before the cone
starts. Kinda like an old Frankenstein flick. And, besides being macho to
talk about, the 10 KV keeps dips from messing with my stuff.
And, in a pinch, I could use it to make neon signs glow.
Also, I have noticed that when I meditate in the same room with the
generator is on, I get more profound insights into the nature of reality.
Thanks for your attention,
James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Fred [SMTP:f...@health2us.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 3:35 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Re: AC vs DC
Jeff said:Do you believe that DC generates the most effective CS?
Anyone have any anecdotal info on DC vs AC?
Fred - HVAC produces an inferior product - non-ionic and non-colloidal
(although possibly better for topical uses due to the high PPM
possible!)
Jeff said: Has anyone tried HVDC?
Fred - For why? In a electrochemical process requiring just a few volts,
why
bother? Would you consider shaving with a 1/2HP electric hedge
trimmer!
Jeff said: Why is one electrode suspended above the electrolyte for the
HVAC process?
Fred - So you can impress your friends with the mysticism? I don't know,
but it will
act as a voltage dropping device (so why did we use so high a voltage?)!
Try calculating
the voltage drop on the water - if you have 10KV and your solution was 30K
ohm you would
be passing 1/3 amp! Now the transformer is current limiting to maybe 33
mills (zero volts out),
so maybe 1/10 of the 10KV is impressed on the water - so the HV is needed
mostly for the
electrostatic energy to help stir things up (blast the sludge) and build a
"neato mystical" cone.
Jeff said: What force causes the cone of water in the HVAC process?
Fred - Very powerful electrostatic forces! We used to build a lot of
electrostatic
precipitators for industry and in some cases used 50KV AC instead of 150KV
DC.
DC is better if the material can take on a charge but AC will move a ton of
product ,
as the energy input is a combination of resistive and capacitive current
but also
ionization of the carrier medium (usually air) will also increase current
draw or
energy input!
Jeff said: Would HVDC create a cone?
Fred - Yes, but you would have less electrostatic action and need much
higher KV
and unless you had a large storeage capacitor (little current limiting) it
would rise
to discharge the PS and fall back as the voltage collapsed. Why did you
want a cone
anyway?
f...@health2us.com
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