Re: "My interpretation is that there are very many tiny metallic particles of silver present!"
Is that some sort of a problem? That's what I am trying to make! James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -----Original Message----- From: rogalt...@aol.com [SMTP:rogalt...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 3:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Re: Your Last Comments on my HVAC CS were lost In a message dated 6/14/00 3:20:36 PM EST, f...@health2us.com writes: << Did they test for ions or simply silver in any form Roger? Fred: Silver in any form. Also, should they be testing for nitrite or nitrate? My good book says nitrates are mostly from organic decomposition and nitrites and mostly from ammonia oxidation with water - seems that lightening will produce ammonia (a chemist I am not!). Fred: I wanted to know if nitric acid was present. It wasn't. The first sample I got (from another list member) failed the metallic silver test badly - over (50) O2 bubbles/sq. in. in a few hours, on a 1/2oz. sample. My interpretation is that there are very many tiny metallic particles of silver present! (My H2O2 test in a plastic baggy!) As mentioned before, silver ions will produce NO bubbles at all, even in two days! Fred: With all do respect for your methodology to distinguish charged from uncharged particles, I do not think that silver IONS are present in colloidal silver. I believe that metallic silver particles make up the sol. These particles are more or less statically charged and have a particular size distribution depending on the method and parameters used to produce it. I believe my HVAC CS product contains heavily charged minute SILVER particles. Otherwise, why is it so stable, and why is it so potent at ~ 1 PPM or less? Further, the ion test seems to have failed - adding an equal amount of 15PPM NaCl salt solution caused cloudy ness, as expected but NO crystals as expected (silver chloride is insoluble and precipitates out), unless the low pH prevents crystallization in some way??? He used the "arc" type of process. Have more tests to do on it, so will report later. Your sample did not arrive yet! Fred: I don't think I'm going to send you a sample of my HVAC CS until I'm convinced that your methodology is accurate AND until you include in your analysis a test for bioactivity. Can you run an "nitrogen free" test (enclose the reaction chamber in a plastic bag filled with O2 or CO2 or at least use a vacuum cleaner to evacuate most air from the system/bag), to see if you still get the dip in pH? That will show if the arc was producing nitric acid of if your theory of structuring has merit! Fred: There is no evidence of nitric acid present in my CS. In addition, I wonder how many technical papers I can find the demonstrates that HVAC can produce structured water? I do not believe it is happening to the extent you say, since submerged electrodes (AC current - no arc) apparently will not drop the pH, or am I mis-informed on that? Fred: Perhaps you should investigate the relationship between structured water and pH. There could be a very complex relationship between the two, particularly in the presence of electrostatically charged silver particles. Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com>
