Hi George, The purpose of this exercise is as follows:
1. Reduce amount of money spent on batteries by 66% (by cutting number of 9 volt batteries required from three to one) 2. Make it easy to replace the battery input with a 9 volt wall adaptor, thereby cutting costs even further. 3. Make it easier for non-technical people to handle battery replacement in a box containing a single battery, rather than three or four batteries. This is all in relation to a current-controlled Colloidal Silver generator. Since we are controlling current, we are definitely NOT concerned about "wasting" electrons, since we actually have too many electrons. Hence the need for current regulation. If you want to stay with your three batteries (and this is ideal for most beginners) I congratulate you on your choice. As far as I am concerned, however, I like to improve and enhance the production process. Joseph. Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 12:26:55 -0500 From: "George Martin" <gmar...@dragonbyte.net> To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" <silver-list@eskimo.com> Subject: CS>Re: voltage tripler Message-Id: <200110051736.f95hanwt018...@sm14.texas.rr.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; I'm not sure what the purpose of this exercise is. If it is to somehow save $$ by buying one battery instead of three there are several very important points that are being missed. When you produce your CS with the tried and true 3X9vdc battery method, every single electron that is "liberated" by the actions of completing the circuit (i.e. hooking the battery terminals to Ag electrodes and placement in DW) goes to either heating up the wire and current limiting resistor (if used) or generating CS. When you begin to add electronic components, you start to accrue additional "costs". More wire means more electrons "wasted" to heat that wire (more resistance). Regulators perform their function at a "cost" of more electrons being used to operate the device and some of these electons serve only to convert their motion (i.e. "current flow") to heat via "friction" (i.e. "electrical resistance"). That is how the output current is controlled. If you have ever inadvertanly placed your finger onto an operating regulator you are well aware of this fact There is a reason why these devices are often attached to heat sinks (that is also what the little metal tab with a hole in it is)... it prevents the device from self-destructing. The additional components needed to "increase" the single 9vdc to 27vdc (or whatever level you feel is ideal) all have an associated "cost"... they will ALL convert a significant portion of the electrons chemically liberated from your single 9vdc battery to heat due to the inherent resistance and other associated electical phenomena of these components. The bottom line is this: Instead of using 99.99999% (or whatever) of the electons to generate CS you are instead using a very significant portion to heat the immediate environment of your now "New & Improved Colloidal Silver Generator". The savings you appear to have gained are illusory and will possibly end up costing you very close to the same $$ PLUS you have spent the $$ of several batteries for the pleasure of "improving" upon a very efficient and proven circuit. This is a classic case of KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid). Now, having said all that there is a place for such "trickery". If your voltage source comes from a renewable resource (i.e. 9-12 vdc solar cell) that is capable of producing much more that the 2 mA or so needed to generate very effective CS, the electrical cost (reduced efficiency) can be justified in the very significant reduction in $$ to go from 9vcd to 27vdc (or whatever) worth of solar cells and/or rechargable batteries. Regards, George Martin --Original Message Text--- From: j.bra...@castsoftware.com Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 15:29:05 +0200 RE: CS>Re: voltage tripler What values should the capacitors have (for 9 volts in and 27 volts out) and which diodes should be used? Is this suitable for DC inputs, or only for AC?