Hi George,

The purpose of this exercise is as follows:

1. Reduce amount of money spent on batteries by 66% (by cutting number of 9
volt batteries required from three to one)
2. Make it easy to replace the battery input with a 9 volt wall adaptor,
thereby cutting costs even further.
3. Make it easier for non-technical people to handle battery replacement in
a box containing a single battery, rather than three or four batteries.

This is all in relation to a current-controlled Colloidal Silver generator.
Since we are controlling current, we are definitely NOT concerned about
"wasting" electrons, since we actually have too many electrons. Hence the
need for current regulation.

If you want to stay with your three batteries (and this is ideal for most
beginners) I congratulate you on your choice. As far as I am concerned,
however, I like to improve and enhance the production process.

Joseph.

Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 12:26:55 -0500
From: "George Martin" <gmar...@dragonbyte.net>
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" <silver-list@eskimo.com>
Subject: CS>Re: voltage tripler
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I'm not sure what the purpose of this exercise is.  If it is to
somehow save $$ by buying one battery instead of three there are
several very important points that are being missed.

When you produce your CS with the tried and true 3X9vdc battery
method, every single electron that is "liberated" by the actions of
completing the circuit (i.e. hooking the battery terminals to Ag
electrodes and placement in DW) goes to either heating up the wire
and current limiting resistor (if used) or generating CS.

When you begin to add electronic components, you start to accrue
additional "costs".  More wire means more electrons "wasted" to heat
that wire (more resistance).  Regulators perform their function at a
"cost" of more electrons being used to operate the device and some
of these electons serve only to convert their motion (i.e. "current
flow") to heat via "friction" (i.e. "electrical resistance").  That
is how the output current is controlled.  If you have ever
inadvertanly placed your finger onto an operating regulator you are
well aware of this fact  There is a reason why these devices are
often attached to heat sinks (that is also what the little metal tab
with a hole in it is)... it prevents the device from
self-destructing.

The additional components needed to "increase" the single 9vdc to
27vdc (or whatever level you feel is ideal)
all have an associated "cost"... they will ALL convert a significant
portion of the electrons chemically liberated from your single 9vdc
battery to heat due to the inherent resistance and other associated
electical phenomena of these components.

The bottom line is this:  Instead of using 99.99999% (or whatever)
of the electons to generate CS you are instead using a very
significant portion to heat the immediate environment of your now
"New & Improved Colloidal Silver Generator".  The savings you appear
to have gained are  illusory and will possibly end up costing you
very close to the same $$ PLUS you have spent the $$ of several
batteries for the pleasure of "improving" upon a very efficient and
proven circuit.  This is a classic case of KISS (Keep It Simple
Stupid). 

Now, having said all that there is a place for such "trickery".  If
your voltage source comes from a renewable resource (i.e. 9-12 vdc
solar cell) that is capable of producing much more that the 2 mA or
so needed to generate very effective CS, the electrical cost
(reduced efficiency) can be justified in the very significant
reduction in $$ to go from 9vcd to 27vdc (or whatever) worth of
solar cells and/or rechargable batteries.

Regards,
George Martin


--Original Message Text---
From: j.bra...@castsoftware.com
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 15:29:05 +0200

RE: CS>Re: voltage tripler 

What values should the capacitors have (for 9 volts in and 27 volts
out) and which diodes should be used? 

Is this suitable for DC inputs, or only for AC?