Joseph, Of course, you will actually spend MORE on batteries with your converter-tripler. The current draw from the battery will be more than 3 times from the three nine volt batteries, since the converter efficiency is probably around 70 to 80%. Thus you will have to replace the batteries more than 3 times as often. You can't fool Mother Nature , the laws of physics, conservation of energy, etc. --Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: <j.bra...@castsoftware.com> To: <silver-list@eskimo.com> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 2:24 AM Subject: CS>Re: voltage tripler
> Hi George, > > The purpose of this exercise is as follows: > > 1. Reduce amount of money spent on batteries by 66% (by cutting number of 9 > volt batteries required from three to one) > 2. Make it easy to replace the battery input with a 9 volt wall adaptor, > thereby cutting costs even further. > 3. Make it easier for non-technical people to handle battery replacement in > a box containing a single battery, rather than three or four batteries. > > This is all in relation to a current-controlled Colloidal Silver generator. > Since we are controlling current, we are definitely NOT concerned about > "wasting" electrons, since we actually have too many electrons. Hence the > need for current regulation. > > If you want to stay with your three batteries (and this is ideal for most > beginners) I congratulate you on your choice. As far as I am concerned, > however, I like to improve and enhance the production process. > > Joseph. > > Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 12:26:55 -0500 > From: "George Martin" <gmar...@dragonbyte.net> > To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" <silver-list@eskimo.com> > Subject: CS>Re: voltage tripler > Message-Id: <200110051736.f95hanwt018...@sm14.texas.rr.com> > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; > > > I'm not sure what the purpose of this exercise is. If it is to > somehow save $$ by buying one battery instead of three there are > several very important points that are being missed. > > When you produce your CS with the tried and true 3X9vdc battery > method, every single electron that is "liberated" by the actions of > completing the circuit (i.e. hooking the battery terminals to Ag > electrodes and placement in DW) goes to either heating up the wire > and current limiting resistor (if used) or generating CS. > > When you begin to add electronic components, you start to accrue > additional "costs". More wire means more electrons "wasted" to heat > that wire (more resistance). Regulators perform their function at a > "cost" of more electrons being used to operate the device and some > of these electons serve only to convert their motion (i.e. "current > flow") to heat via "friction" (i.e. "electrical resistance"). That > is how the output current is controlled. If you have ever > inadvertanly placed your finger onto an operating regulator you are > well aware of this fact There is a reason why these devices are > often attached to heat sinks (that is also what the little metal tab > with a hole in it is)... it prevents the device from > self-destructing. > > The additional components needed to "increase" the single 9vdc to > 27vdc (or whatever level you feel is ideal) > all have an associated "cost"... they will ALL convert a significant > portion of the electrons chemically liberated from your single 9vdc > battery to heat due to the inherent resistance and other associated > electical phenomena of these components. > > The bottom line is this: Instead of using 99.99999% (or whatever) > of the electons to generate CS you are instead using a very > significant portion to heat the immediate environment of your now > "New & Improved Colloidal Silver Generator". The savings you appear > to have gained are illusory and will possibly end up costing you > very close to the same $$ PLUS you have spent the $$ of several > batteries for the pleasure of "improving" upon a very efficient and > proven circuit. This is a classic case of KISS (Keep It Simple > Stupid). > > Now, having said all that there is a place for such "trickery". If > your voltage source comes from a renewable resource (i.e. 9-12 vdc > solar cell) that is capable of producing much more that the 2 mA or > so needed to generate very effective CS, the electrical cost > (reduced efficiency) can be justified in the very significant > reduction in $$ to go from 9vcd to 27vdc (or whatever) worth of > solar cells and/or rechargable batteries. > > Regards, > George Martin > > > --Original Message Text--- > From: j.bra...@castsoftware.com > Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 15:29:05 +0200 > > RE: CS>Re: voltage tripler > > What values should the capacitors have (for 9 volts in and 27 volts > out) and which diodes should be used? > > Is this suitable for DC inputs, or only for AC? > > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com>
