## Somehow my name got attached to something I didn't write. But, hydroxide or not, salt or not...at 10 to 30 PPM, you'd drown long before you get anything like a toxic dose. At a 94% elimination rate per 48 hrs, you'd drown for years before you'd get argryia. [note below that "ingest per day" might need to be changed to "retain over all" to get that total load of 3 grams...so 94x300? Or is that 6x 300 litres?] Note also that the 94% elimination rate was for an inhaled or ingested by mouth dose of silver 'dust' eliminated via the feces.
It has been postulated that the "blue bloods" got that name because they ate off silver a lot and turned blue. It seems they ate their dinnerware for desert. "A teaspoon a day keeps the bloodletter away"? "> The requirement is very much higher than could possibly gained by taking > normal strength CS, Roger. > > To become blue you would need to ingest about 3 grams of silver per day, > according to Alexander G. Schauss, Ph.D. Director, Life Sciences > Division John Hopkins University. A litre of 10 ppm CS contains 10 > milligrams of silver, therefore one would need to ingest 300 litres per > day to reach this point. > > This is quite a bit higher than some of the references I have seen, but > even the most conservative estimate has one drinking tens of litres per > day. > > Ivan." At 08:00 AM 12/13/01 +0600, you wrote: >Ken, >I never stopped to think that the silver may be the hydroxide, evedince >that my understanding of chemistry is limited. (Sometimes I stop and >think and sometimes I just stop.) Can you fill me in on how it is that >the hydroxide is a salt? Does anybody else have an answer? I feel sure >that you're correct that the reason this is not harmful to us CS lovers >in the long run is that 10ppm is extremely dilute. Of course this begs >a question about assertions here that it's not a problem to ingest ionic >silver at the really high concentrations. If this sort of CS is >practically unattainable without the salts then responsible people >should talk about some kind of an upper ppm limit for ingesting. On the >other hand finding that number may be difficult. > >Also, back to my limited chemistry, I would like to know why it is that >one would have to isolate one element in a simple compound as the >culprit in a health problem. For example with silver nitrate why does >the problem have to be either the silver or the nitrate. I think the >problem is probably the compound. Another example: it's been stated >here that gold chloride is highly toxic, yet gold metal is beneficial >and chlorine is a lot less toxic. >Salaam, >Reid > >Ode Coyote wrote: >Jason, > Thanks for the reference material. The conditions seem to be >pretty extreme - not many of us are going to be >using 1500 PPM solution of silver salts of any kind as drinking water. >Nevertheless it raises an interesting matter. >Most of the home made "CS" has the silver in the form of a silver salt - >namely silver hydroxide, more so than actual >colloid. So is it only the low concentration and/or dosage that prevents >poisoning? It has been stated previously on this >list that in the case of silver nitrate, nitrate is the actual culprit. >But acetate is from vinegar, so it seems safe to >assume that in the case of silver acetate, only the silver could be to >blame. Is the picture more complicated than this - >meaning the stuff exists in the body in part as undissociated complex >that acts differently to either ionic species? > >regards, Kevin Nolan > > > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > >
