For persons interested in the ideas Marshall Dudley expresses below, a very interesting book is available: Margins of Reality, by Dunne and Jahn as I recall. Both were at Standford, investigating effects of thougth on extremely precise computers. They claim to have proved a very consistent and repeatable effect, vanishingly small, demonstrable only over a long period w/ very fast computer counters and such. They found no "superstars," though husband/wife teams could do better than individuals in some cases. I have had experiences similar to those MD describes, but I can not get around the fact that the occurances may have been mere chance. I simply do not know. I am interested to learn more about this.
Marshall Dudley wrote: > > I have proven using a scanning spectorphotometer that one's thoughts can > easily and consistently change the structure of water. And if you > change the structure of the water you are using for the CS, then I would > fully expect that there would be an effect on the colloidal silver > production. > > About a decade ago when the IBM personal computer first came out, the > president of the company I was working for then demanded that we ship > them with our systems. Procedures required that anything we ship meet > quality assurance, but the IBM personal computer was so poorly designed > an built that QC would not approve it. The president forced them to > ship them anyway, but I had the very strong opinion that they were all > unreliable pieces of junk. Well, we all got IBM computers to work with > in engineering, and mine would constantly bomb and lock up. I could not > do anything for more than a few minutes without it crashing. They would > ship it back and get another one and it would do the same. I would go > to the other engineers offices and see if they were having the same > problem, but they would all report that theirs never crashed, except > when I would go in and ask, then they would crash. It got where I was > not allowed in the other engineers' offices when they were working on > their computers because they claimed I crashed their system. Anyway, > they finally allowed me to build a clone computer for about 1/4th the > cost of an IBM, and it never crashed. Finally all the computers in > engineering were swapped out to cheap clones, and none of the ever > crashed like they did before. > > It was many years before I realized that the expectation of them being > unreliable was what was causing the crashes. There are many example of > this, such as the cold fusion experimentation where those that expect it > almost always get positive results and those who don't think it is > possible usually get negative results. (that is why this is called a > consensus reality, what is real is what the majority thinks is real!) > > Marshall > > James Allison wrote: > > > Considering there are people like Uri Geller in this wondrous > > universe, you may have a point ;) -James > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: James Osbourne, Holmes > > To: Silver-List > > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 8:38 AM > > Subject: CS>Speculation about variables in CS production > > > > Since it has been demonstrated that mental activity can > > influence matter perhaps the mental state of the > > experimenter may influence the production of CS. > > > > James-Osbourne: Holmes > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com>