Arnold,

I may be mistaken, but isn't the objective to put small silver particles
into suspension not ions or is this an issue of the terms being used. 
As I understand it, AG+ isn't very useful once it gets into the stomach,
but is very useful for topical/sublingual application.

Because I haven't finished figuring out how to make high quality
colloidal silver (with very little AG+), I have been buying mine from
Frank Rey (www.purestcolloids.com).  Yes, it is expensive, but my sister
has breast cancer and I am not going to muck about with unknown things
for her.

Oddly, while everyone says that the yellow-amber color is a sign of AG+,
that is the color that comes from Frank Rey.  And he does have access to
the equipment (or should I say owns) to test what he makes.

I have been using constant current (have a small circuit board made up)
method, at very low current levels (0.2uA/square inch of electrode) and
found that it produces more crud than moving up to .2mA/square inch of
electrode.  Somewhere in here lies a better number.  I also believe that
reversing current direction may be an important part of this, which
means that both electrodes need to be made of silver.

Also, a chemist friend of mine who has some experience with colloids
stated emphatically that you need to use de-ionized water, which,
interestingly enough, is what Frank Rey's cs is made with.

I believe that having de-ionized water is a major factor in getting a
good colloidal silver.

Going to be testing that here shortly, as soon as I can find de-ionized
water.

Ciao,

Craig



Arnold Beland wrote:
> 
> Craig,
> 
> .2 is correct.  Ivan did some very good work on this in the group some time
> ago.  Are you still there, Ivan?
>    The idea is to start with very few ions of any type.  This will mean,
> especially with low voltage, that the current will be very low at the start.
> Silver ions will be released from the anode and will start on their journey
> to the cathode.  Again, because the voltage is low, the speed is relatively
> low.  Using a relatively small spacing between the anode and cathode at the
> start can speed up the process.  As more silver ions enter the solution, the
> effective resistance of the cell will decrease until the voltage drop across
> the cell is in the order of 2 volts.  At this point, the solution will have
> all the ions it can hold and they will be silver ions, not ions formed by
> stirring or blowing in air.
> 
> Arnold
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Craig Chamberlin" <c...@itsmyplace.com>
> To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>; "Arnold Beland" <abel...@tampabay.rr.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 3:38 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Testers
> 
> > Arnold,
> >
> > Which value is correct: 0.2 or 2 uA/square mm electrode?
> >
> > Also, shouldn't deionized water produce much less ionic silver?
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Craig Chamberlin


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