Reid:

My understanding is that you are correct.  If I remember correctly, one lab
did acquire several samples of "isolated" colloidal silver with a claim for
a high PPM, in excess of 100 PPM.  While the advertised PPM was a bit higher
than the end reading, it was high.  Again, if I remember correctly, the
particle dispersion wasn't ideal, and the particles themselves were quite a
bit larger than a highly controlled, less concentrated batch.

I have no idea of the long term stability of such a product, though!

Jason
----- Original Message -----
From: "Reid Harvey" <ceram...@bol-online.com>
To: "silver list" <silver-list@eskimo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:29 PM
Subject: CS>Re: 100-500 PPM CS and how it's made


> Hi Trem,
> I'm curious why you say that electrolysis can't make CS as strong as 100
> to 500ppm, unless perhaps you are speaking of the more conventional
> methodologies.  I make CS that is ~170ppm, using a generator I acquired
> from Educate-Yourself.org, and though I have not had this tested I feel
> the ppm is the amount advertised.  I'm told this generator will make CS
> upto about 1100ppm or more, simply requiring additional time.
>
> The container used is a 2 liter Erlenmeyer flask, operated in a double
> boiler, which I monitor to see that the boiling point is never
> exceeded.  It's necessary to keep the temperature somewhat under 212oF,
> between about 200 and 208, so there's a thermometer inserted in the
> rubber cork at the top.  I'm also told that the rate of ionic silver
> reaction is doubled for every additional 10oF.  Also I use polarity
> switching, doing this every one minute, in order to prevent current
> runaway.  Three or four hours at temperature and the CS goes from yellow
> to orange to deep amber, always tranparent, but at the end so dark that
> what one sees is a kind of gray, reflected color.  But in diluting you
> get back to a clear yellow.
>
> I have variously seen here that a number of CS enthusiasts insist the
> ions will agglomerate and precipitate if something like 50ppm is
> exceeded, but I am guessing that this is not what happens.  I believe
> there is actually a current runaway, or perhaps precipitation due to an
> electromagnetic field.  It seems that as ppm increases there is more and
> more likelihood of instability, for various reasons.  The folks who made
> my generator advise the concentrated CS is best kept in a Farraday cage
> in order to prevent instability due to electromagnetic fields.  Of
> course, the producers of the Mexican CS, Microdyn, solve the same
> problem by using the protein stabilizer.
>
> I hope this information is helpful.
> Reid
>
> Trem said:
> Hi List,
>
> There's a question that's been nagging me for several years and I hope
> someone can help me figure it out.  When I see 100 to 500 PPM CS I
> always
> wonder what process was used to make it.
>
> Since I know that electrolysis can't make it that strong it seems to me
> it
> has been made through chemical means.  If it is made chemically and
> protein
> binders such as gelatin are used to stabilize it, what is the process?
> Is
> the silver dissolved in an acid and then a precipitant added to form
> particles or is there some other method?
>
> And if it is done using an acid can anyone tell me the process?
>
> The stuff is always deep brown in color which makes me think it's no
> good
> because of agglomeration, but it might actually have that much silver in
> it.
> I know Ole Bob has tested some of it and as I recall he found most of
> them
> were not at the PPM touted but it seems he did find some that were in
> the
> hundreds of PPM.  Bob, are you there?  Can you shed any light for me?
>
> Can anyone?
>
> Trem
>
>
>
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