Reid: My understanding is that you are correct. If I remember correctly, one lab did acquire several samples of "isolated" colloidal silver with a claim for a high PPM, in excess of 100 PPM. While the advertised PPM was a bit higher than the end reading, it was high. Again, if I remember correctly, the particle dispersion wasn't ideal, and the particles themselves were quite a bit larger than a highly controlled, less concentrated batch.
I have no idea of the long term stability of such a product, though! Jason ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reid Harvey" <ceram...@bol-online.com> To: "silver list" <silver-list@eskimo.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:29 PM Subject: CS>Re: 100-500 PPM CS and how it's made > Hi Trem, > I'm curious why you say that electrolysis can't make CS as strong as 100 > to 500ppm, unless perhaps you are speaking of the more conventional > methodologies. I make CS that is ~170ppm, using a generator I acquired > from Educate-Yourself.org, and though I have not had this tested I feel > the ppm is the amount advertised. I'm told this generator will make CS > upto about 1100ppm or more, simply requiring additional time. > > The container used is a 2 liter Erlenmeyer flask, operated in a double > boiler, which I monitor to see that the boiling point is never > exceeded. It's necessary to keep the temperature somewhat under 212oF, > between about 200 and 208, so there's a thermometer inserted in the > rubber cork at the top. I'm also told that the rate of ionic silver > reaction is doubled for every additional 10oF. Also I use polarity > switching, doing this every one minute, in order to prevent current > runaway. Three or four hours at temperature and the CS goes from yellow > to orange to deep amber, always tranparent, but at the end so dark that > what one sees is a kind of gray, reflected color. But in diluting you > get back to a clear yellow. > > I have variously seen here that a number of CS enthusiasts insist the > ions will agglomerate and precipitate if something like 50ppm is > exceeded, but I am guessing that this is not what happens. I believe > there is actually a current runaway, or perhaps precipitation due to an > electromagnetic field. It seems that as ppm increases there is more and > more likelihood of instability, for various reasons. The folks who made > my generator advise the concentrated CS is best kept in a Farraday cage > in order to prevent instability due to electromagnetic fields. Of > course, the producers of the Mexican CS, Microdyn, solve the same > problem by using the protein stabilizer. > > I hope this information is helpful. > Reid > > Trem said: > Hi List, > > There's a question that's been nagging me for several years and I hope > someone can help me figure it out. When I see 100 to 500 PPM CS I > always > wonder what process was used to make it. > > Since I know that electrolysis can't make it that strong it seems to me > it > has been made through chemical means. If it is made chemically and > protein > binders such as gelatin are used to stabilize it, what is the process? > Is > the silver dissolved in an acid and then a precipitant added to form > particles or is there some other method? > > And if it is done using an acid can anyone tell me the process? > > The stuff is always deep brown in color which makes me think it's no > good > because of agglomeration, but it might actually have that much silver in > it. > I know Ole Bob has tested some of it and as I recall he found most of > them > were not at the PPM touted but it seems he did find some that were in > the > hundreds of PPM. Bob, are you there? Can you shed any light for me? > > Can anyone? > > Trem > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > >