Marshall; I seem to recall you making these same remarks a while back. I believe Ivan answered at that time that the response to light of concentrated silver acetate in a photographic emulsion can hardly be equated to what happens when a dilute solution is ingested in the human body. Following some negative comments by Bob Berger on the light sensitivity of CS brewed with citrate (actually, I think it was added potassium citrate, which is a very different situation), I tried an experiment. Left an old PETE jar containing ~ 20 PPM silver, brewed with excess citric acid, out in the sun over the entire summer period. The solution is still perfectly clear, with no signs of any dropout. I am not sure of the % ionic but there is a moderate to strong TE present. By the same token, many list members have reported light sensitivity of CS brewed with DW only - a sign their technique was wrong, rather than any inherent photosensitivity with 'traditionally brewed' CS. As far as silver citrate being 'another compound of silver' - so is predominantly ALL the CS made, whether HVAC or LVDC. The figures quoted are anywhere from 75-99 % ionic silver. Well it can't just be silver ions present - what you have is the COMPOUND silver hydroxide (dissociated in solution as ions of course, just as silver acetate is). So the arguement is whether acetate ions are somehow more dangerous than hydroxy ions. My own experience suggests it is quite safe when taken at the same kind of levels as 'ordinary' CS.
Kevin Nolan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marshall Dudley" <mdud...@execonn.com> To: "*Silver-List* (E-mail)" <silver-list@eskimo.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 2:40 AM Subject: Re: CS>100-500 PPM CS and how it's made. > Why would one one want to take silver citrate? It is another compound of > silver, and has the same problems. It is photosensitive and thus can cause > argyria just like silver nitrate. In fact from 1885 to 1930 it was used in > the aristotype photo emulsions. > > Marshall > > I Anderson wrote: > > > Still here Kevin, lurking in the background. Don't have much time > > these days ...working on various projects. One is building a lab > > beneath my new residence. > > > > There is nothing on-line about this, I took my information from the > > patent and my own investigations. I have not tried diluting a > > concentrated solution, but see no reason for it not to be perfectly > > stable. The only question that I have yet to answer, is just how > > readily the silver becomes biologically available, but I should > > imagine at concentrations below 285ppm the question is not relevant as > > the ions are solvated and not complexed with the citrate (I presume). > > > > Regards > > Ivan. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Kevin Nolan [mailto:ken...@optusnet.com.au] > > > Sent: Monday, 25 March 2002 1:41 p.m. > > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > Subject: Re: CS>100-500 PPM CS and how it's made. > > > > > > > > > Hi Ivan, > > > Was wondering whether you were still on the > > > list. Are you > > > aware of any on-line references on this matter? What happens > > > when such a > > > concentrate is diluted with water to various concentrations? > > > Is the complex > > > unstable at lower concentrations? > > > > > > regards, Kevin Nolan > > > > > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> >