It is not likely the gray elbows were Argyria; that is believed to be irreversible.
James-Osbourne: Holmes -----Original Message----- From: Tom & Mary McFadden [mailto:m...@axs4u.net] Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 8:37 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>reply from a company selling 500ppm CS I have been using 80PPM CS for two years now, at least thats what I think it is as I have no PPM meter. I usually take an ounce in am and Pm also. So far I have not turned any other color . I did have a client who started using CS and she got grey patches on her elbows, however when she cut back the grey went away. I later found out that she was taking all kinds of drugs for something and I am sure that caused a reaction. In two and a half years of using CS she is the only one who had trouble and she is still using CS today. Tom -------Original Message------- From: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, September 29, 2002 08:02:54 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re:CS>reply from a company selling 500ppm CS There seems to be a major shift in philosophy developing here. Until this discussion began, the dominant Silver List thought was that CS could NOT cause arygria. Now we are hearing that high strength CS CAN cause argyria. Is there any evidence to support this contention? I have been consuming Microdyn CS, whatever its strength is, for six years, at times heavily, straight out of the bottle into my mouth. During a bout of Australian flu three years ago, I drank 10 drops of Microdyn every hour, right out of the bottle, for three straight days. (There were elderly people dying in NYC from that flu, and I didn't want to be one of them.) Additionally, my drinking water is a prepared mix of sea salt, bentonite clay and Microdyn, which I consume daily. I have never had any adverse reactions to this practice, and consider Microdyn safe for consumption undiluted. If I turn blue, I'll let you know. So far the only part of me that's blue is my eyes. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reid Harvey" <pott...@wlink.com.np> To: "silver list" <silver-list@eskimo.com> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 8:55 PM Subject: CS>reply from a company selling 500ppm CS > Dear Jason, > Thanks for your very thoughtful message. I can see your point that it > would be best for concentrated CS to be administered by a doctor. But > how ironic that the vast majority of otherwise-reliable, western > educated doctors would appear to tend not to accept the validity of CS, > also the victims of the dis-information. > > You asked about the possibility of my having a comparison done on the > high ppm CS I make, to see how effective it really is, and I will hope > to do that at some point in the future. But at present I use this CS > primarily to saturate ceramic candle filters, all of which have tested > 100% removal of fecal coliforms. I use the high ppm secondarily for > various treatments on my family while traveling, 'where there is no > doctor.' > > For example, my wife Catherine had a very nasty bout of strep throat > while we were in a Nepali game park, far from any clinic. She had had > this kind of severe strep several times before, only going to the doctor > after it hit her like a ton of bricks, and each time she'd go on > antibiotics and be laid up in bed for nearly a week. While in the game > park, when seh finally admitted that it was severe strep (her throat > red) we put her on a careful regime of the labelled-3200ppm Microdyn, > diluted to ~20ppm, a 200ml. glass every four hours. By the second glass > she was already feeling better and no further bed rest was indicated, so > she didn't miss out on any of the fun activities of the family. (We > subsequently rode an elephant out to a place where we could watch > rhinos.) > > It would be interesting to know how Mexicans fare at the business of > self treatment with Microdyn. I suppose I have not tuned in sooner to > your concern about improper dosage simply because, CS in any shape or > form is considered improper by most doctors, misquided as their > viewpoint may be. So it may appear that the laymen need to hazard their > own dosing, dependent on their own good instincts in seeking proper > advice. Of course your concern about a doctor's supervision would > extend to many kinds of remedies and not only those of CS. But what > with lack of medical facilites, educated people in third world countries > have to make do. For example, peace corps doctors around the world tend > to warn their volunteers about the hazards of self prescription/ self > dosage. Then they give the volunteers prescription drugs, like > antibiotics, prior to their going to their various postings, usually > remote. > > So I may see your point about unethical sales of high ppm in the U.S., > for example. But given the climate in third world countries, where self > dosing is de rigeur, I think the ethical aspects get thrown out the > window. In a fair and just world your wisdom would perhaps prevail. > Reid > > Jason said, > Reid: > > My greatest concern with the high PPM solutions is misuse. You'll note > that > in a previous message, the original company that manufactured what was > likely MSP only sold the product to doctors... That this doctor then > decided to retail it to others is besides the point! > > There are reasons for this. I consider companies that only sell these > high > PPM products to doctors ethical companies. I consider companies that do > > not, unethical, in that all the companies ( all that I have been able to > > find with similiar products ) do not claim that there is no risk to use. > > The fact of the matter is, there is no risk to use, provided that the > instructions on the label are followed. > > Judging from the emails I've received over the last two years, there are > > many people out there using high PPM MSP as if it were electro-colloidal > > silver; undiluted, and taking amounts that certainly do produce a > considerable risk, even if only a cosmetic one. > > I'm very certain that silver citrate is a bit different than many of the > > products out there, including the one in a recent post... But the > statement > that the "colloidal silver" was effective at 250 PPM + is frightening. > I'm > almost willing to bet that either someone didn't do the testing > correctly, > or that someone crossed their information somewhere. > > I certainly understand your point. If I were in a third world country > without access to distilled water, I wouldn't hesitate to use what was > at my > disposal, including tap water if necessary. > > Have you considered having a comparison done on your product, to see how > > effective it really is ( once diluted to useable )? > > That might be revealing, and might either put your mind at ease, or give > you > something more to shoot for... > > Kind Regards, > > Jason > > PS: Yes, I certainly agree and know that high concentrations of CS can > be > made, but it is good to keep in mind that the nature of the products > with > high PPM are different! > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > > . ____________________________________________________ IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
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