Mike: Your concern is noted, and I will annote the texts. Perhaps I should remove the tutorial on building an oxygen nebulizer, because pure oxygen is dangerous?
I have been unable to make nine volt batteries explode upon repeated attempts. More than 80% of the general public would not make the basic generator if the light bulb had to be wired in. This means that there are those who would not be living today had I kept the design as it was initially. Best Regards, Jason ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Monett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 10:48 AM Subject: Re: CS>Answer to Catherine, warning to Mike Monett... > url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m60533.html > CS>Answer to Catherine, warning to Mike Monett... > From: M. G. Devour > Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 08:08:36 > > > Mike Monett writes: > > >> Oh, great. 3 nines are not enough - he uses FOUR of them! And > >> relies on the heavy current drain to bring the voltage down. > >> Anybody want to hazard a guess how much current a 9V alkaline can > >> deliver? It's well into the Amp range. Some generator. Not a clue > >> about how to make cs. He might as well add some salt to speed it > >> up. > > > Mike, this is just rude. I admire the poise of Jason's reply. He > > treated you, as I would expect of him, better than you deserved. > > > Most of us started out with just such a generator. We had "a clue" > > about how to make CS. Nobody ever exploded a battery that I know > > of. > > Mike, > > With all due respect, I do not care what kind of cs Jason makes. My > concern is the risk and hazard his design presents to newbies. > > Modern Alkaline batteries have much higher energy than before. They > can and will explode if left shorted, or get hot enough to cause > serious burns. > > The original 3 nines design had a subminiature 24 Volt bulb in > series with the batteries. This protected the batteries if the > electrodes were shorted, and eliminated any risk of explosion or > burns. > > Jason has removed this protection, and added one more battery to the > stack. This increases the hazard. > > He recommends touching the electrodes to see if there is a spark. > This will give newbies the impression there is no risk in doing so. > > There is mention of adding current regulation on some pages, but I > was unable to find it. > > Here are a few references from the web: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > "WARNING!!" > > "Do NOT short-circuit or disassemble your battery. A short-circuit > may cause severe damage to the battery" > > http://www.batterymart.com/battery_faq.php > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > "Do not carry batteries in your pocket -- coins, keys, or other > metal objects can short circuit a battery causing extreme heat, acid > leakage, or an explosion." > > http://www.seniorworld.com/articles/a19990118165011.html > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From the sci.electronics.design newsgroup: > > > I'm really don't know that much about 3.6V Lithium primary > > batteries though. > > Nor do I. Except that they explode when a) short circuited and b) > overheated. > > Still, Duracells can do that too - but they get warm first - > lithiums seem to jump straight into the "danger zone". > > > http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&frame=right&th=8 bad068ad8e9e62c&seekm=9divt5%24862%241%40uranium.btinternet.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > John Woodgate, one of the most respected engineers on the > sci.electronics.design newsgroup, posted the following: > > > DON'T, ON ANY ACCOUNT, SHORT-CIRCUIT A BATTERY THESE DAYS. THEY > > CAN, AND WILL, EXPLODE. > > > http://groups.google.com/groups?q=alkaline+explode+group:sci.electronics.des ign+group:sci.electronics.design&start=10&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=sci.elect ronics.design&safe=off&selm=CSF98.11328%24X2.127959%40nnrp1.uunet.ca&rnum=11 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > There are no readily-available miniature bulbs that will work at 36 > Volts. The only alternative is a series resistor. > > Best Regards, > > Mike Monett > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> >

