Mike:

Your concern is noted, and I will annote the texts.  Perhaps I should remove
the tutorial on building an oxygen nebulizer, because pure oxygen is
dangerous?

I have been unable to make nine volt batteries explode upon repeated
attempts.  More than 80% of the general public would not make the basic
generator if the light bulb had to be wired in.

This means that there are those who would not be living today had I kept the
design as it was initially.

Best Regards,

Jason

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Monett" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Answer to Catherine, warning to Mike Monett...


> url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m60533.html
> CS>Answer to Catherine, warning to Mike Monett...
> From: M. G. Devour
> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 08:08:36
>
>   > Mike Monett writes:
>
>   >> Oh, great.  3  nines are not enough - he uses FOUR  of  them! And
>   >> relies on  the  heavy current drain to  bring  the  voltage down.
>   >> Anybody want to hazard a guess how much current a 9V alkaline can
>   >> deliver? It's well into the Amp range. Some generator. Not a clue
>   >> about how to make cs. He might as well add some salt to  speed it
>   >> up.
>
>   > Mike, this  is just rude. I admire the poise of Jason's  reply. He
>   > treated you, as I would expect of him, better than you deserved.
>
>   > Most of us started out with just such a generator. We had "a clue"
>   > about how  to make CS. Nobody ever exploded a battery that  I know
>   > of.
>
>   Mike,
>
>   With all due respect, I do not care what kind of cs Jason  makes. My
>   concern is the risk and hazard his design presents to newbies.
>
>   Modern Alkaline batteries have much higher energy than  before. They
>   can and  will  explode if left shorted, or get hot  enough  to cause
>   serious burns.
>
>   The original  3  nines  design had a subminiature  24  Volt  bulb in
>   series with  the  batteries.  This protected  the  batteries  if the
>   electrodes were  shorted,  and eliminated any risk  of  explosion or
>   burns.
>
>   Jason has removed this protection, and added one more battery to the
>   stack. This increases the hazard.
>
>   He recommends  touching the electrodes to see if there  is  a spark.
>   This will give newbies the impression there is no risk in doing so.
>
>   There is  mention of adding current regulation on some pages,  but I
>   was unable to find it.
>
>   Here are a few references from the web:
>
>   -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>   "WARNING!!"
>
>   "Do NOT  short-circuit or disassemble your battery.  A short-circuit
>   may cause severe damage to the battery"
>
>   http://www.batterymart.com/battery_faq.php
>
>   -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>   "Do not  carry  batteries in your pocket --  coins,  keys,  or other
>   metal objects can short circuit a battery causing extreme heat, acid
>   leakage, or an explosion."
>
>   http://www.seniorworld.com/articles/a19990118165011.html
>
>   -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>   From the sci.electronics.design newsgroup:
>
>   > I'm really  don't  know  that   much  about  3.6V  Lithium primary
>   > batteries though.
>
>   Nor do  I. Except that they explode when a) short  circuited  and b)
>   overheated.
>
>   Still, Duracells  can  do  that  too - but  they  get  warm  first -
>   lithiums seem to jump straight into the "danger zone".
>
>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&frame=right&th=8
bad068ad8e9e62c&seekm=9divt5%24862%241%40uranium.btinternet.com
>
>   -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>   John Woodgate,  one   of   the   most   respected  engineers  on the
>   sci.electronics.design newsgroup, posted the following:
>
>   > DON'T, ON  ANY ACCOUNT, SHORT-CIRCUIT A BATTERY  THESE  DAYS. THEY
>   > CAN, AND WILL, EXPLODE.
>
>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=alkaline+explode+group:sci.electronics.des
ign+group:sci.electronics.design&start=10&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=sci.elect
ronics.design&safe=off&selm=CSF98.11328%24X2.127959%40nnrp1.uunet.ca&rnum=11
>
>   -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>   There are no readily-available miniature bulbs that will work  at 36
>   Volts. The only alternative is a series resistor.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Mike Monett
>
>
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