Hi Ode,

Thanks for an excellent, informative article--one of the best and most
helpful I've seen during the few years I've been intoduced to CS!

As I point out to newcomers to this wonderful site, there are some GIANTS
with much knowledge and a desire to share with seekers of good info (You are
in my list with these).

My sincere thanks and appreciation to you and ALL.
Sincerely,
Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist

-----Original Message-----
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:08 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Generator site


4.) The Brand New "Micro-Particle" Home Colloidal Silver Generator $339.95
plus $10 s&h


 This is the only model they offer that even addresses electrode spacing at
all..and that's VERY important to any sort of calibration.  I see there is
a timer attached to it as well..but no visible way to tell when to start
timing.
 If you don't know that, even with controlled current..which they
apparently do use...timing a batch is next to useless.
" Over a year and a half in development"
 It took them that long to not figure it out?

 It's not hard to get a much much better generator for less than half the
price.

"QUESTION: How do you store colloidal silver?



ANSWER: Always store colloidal silver in darkly tinted glass bottles at
room temperature.  Because silver is very sensitive to light, you must keep
it out of the light as much as possible.  Storing it in darkly tinted glass
bottles in a kitchen cabinet is fine. Additionally, never refrigerate
colloidal silver.  Refrigeration slows the electrical charge on the silver
ions and causes them to drop out of suspension in the water.  Keeping your
colloidal silver at room temperature is always best.  Avoid excessive heat
and excessive cold whenever possible.  Also, do not store it close to
electrical or magnetic influences such as the television, radio, stereo
speakers (which have large magnets in them) etc.  All of these factors can
seriously weaken the electrical charge on the silver ion, and render your
colloidal silver less potent."

 If the charge is weakened, it ain't an ion.  How does a charge of +1
weaken?  There is no 'less than one' at quantum levels.
 I'll maybe go along with temperature extremes..not sure.
Electromagnetic fields at certain frequencies..maybe sometimes, but
probably not from motors and  magnets.
 I've heated CS in a microwave with no apparent effect other than it
getting warmed up faster than plain water.
Solar storms?
 Light sensitivity?  Not if it's pure.

"QUESTION: How do I know there are actually silver ions in the water when I
make colloidal silver without salt?



ANSWER: First of all, you can taste the distinctive metallic taste of the
water after making “no salt” colloidal silver.  That alone lets you know
the silver ions are there.  But there is a simple trick for being able to
“see” the silver ions when making “no salt” colloidal silver.  You simply
make your batch of colloidal silver, and then take one of those little red
laser pointers that shine a bright red laser beam — they’re available in
many office supply stores or catalogs for about $19 –  and go into a dark
room.  Shine the laser light into your colloidal silver solution (being
careful not to shine the red beam toward your eyes) and you will see a
bright red beam of light shining through your colloidal silver solution.
This is because the laser light is reflecting off of the tens of millions
of microscopic silver ions that are suspended in the solution.  If there
were no silver ions in the water, the beam would not show up at all,
because there would be nothing for the beam to reflect off of.  In science,
this is called the Raleigh-Tyndall effect, and it is precisely how
researchers and scientists make sure the colloidal solutions they have
prepared without saline indeed have suspended colloid particles in them."

Obviously don't have clue as to the difference between a dissolved ion and
a suspended particle and the light properties of either

"QUESTION: Why is the “Micro-Particle” generator limited to producing 7-10
parts per million?



ANSWER: Because with the new “Micro-Particle” generator, you are making
ultra-small silver ions which have a high penetration ability.  Making
stronger concentrations of colloidal silver defeats the purpose, because
the more strongly concentrated you make your colloidal silver, the more
silver ions you get in the upper particle size range.  So the
“Micro-Particle” generator limits the concentration in order to achieve
smaller particle size and therefore greater penetration into the cells and
tissues where certain pathogenic microorganisms such as mycoplasmas are
know to hide."

Anything bigger than a single ion is not an ion. There's no such thing as
an ultra small ion.
There "might" be such a thing as a multi atom cluster that incorporates one
or more ions in it's structure and has a partial charge for that reason but
no one has confirmed it to my knowledge.

"QUESTION:  Why do some people say that you should only purchase generators
that produce a single uniform particle size of silver ion?



ANSWER: That’s no mystery.  It is because they are trying to sell you one
of their generators which only produces a single uniform particle size.
And that is fine if it is what you want.  But as colloidal silver
researcher Daryl Tichy has demonstrated in independent laboratory research,
when it comes to colloidal silver, different pathogenic microorganisms
respond to different particle sizes.  This means one type of pathogen might
respond best to silver ions in the range of .04 microns, while another type
of pathogen might respond best to silver ions in the range of .001 microns,
or to some size in between.  So you really need a generator that produces a
controlled range of particle sizes.  A generator that produces only a
single uniform particle size dramatically limits your ability to affect a
large spectrum of microorganisms.  Darryl Tichy’s research showed clearly
that a good broad spectrum colloidal silver solution would be a stable
colloid with a controlled range of particle sizes rather than a single
uniform particle size."

  WHAT!!!  Directly conflicting info.  They're saying that a wide range is
better so you need a generator [theirs] that produces a narrow range.

           "Although we have tested many other company’s home colloidal
silver generators against those distributed by our recommended vendor The
Silver Edge Health & Nutritionals, we have yet to find even ONE which
spends the extra money and time to calibrate their generators in this vital
manner to enhance your ability to produce high-quality silver ions on a
consistent basis."

..didn't look very far, did they?

Laughable!
Ode

At 08:47 AM 11/19/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>Hi List,
>
>Check this site out.  This is an example of what I would call blatant
>misinformation and exorbitant prices for an inferior product.  Talk about
>using scare tactics.  I have customers calling/emailing asking if these are
>good generators.  I have to put my hip waders on when reading their
>disinformation.
>
>http://www.silveredgehealth.com/index.html
>
>Trem
>
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