Interestingly. I emailed the dude that runs the website and suggested a
few ways to 'come off' better with a few of the more obvious examples that
any chemistry book would confirm at a glance.
I suggested he search the archives and/or join this list.
I got Bible quotes, fingers pointed at the FDA/ "Us vs Them" " I'm the
great saviour/they're the Devil" " Used to be all CSers were united"
{against who? The consumer?} diversions and character attacks in response.
"wool over the sheeples eyes" stuff.
WOW!
Hate to say it, [Naw.. I'm BAADDD!] I actually enjoyed pointing all the
manipulation and defense tactics out when i wrote him back.
Like, I didn't attack him. Why the defense?
Was it just beyond consideration that someone would try and help him look
better?
BTW, that person was on this " your precious list" at one time and made
quite a point of the various disagreements we sometimes have here.
He really put the "experts" in their place...below ignorance?
Apparently he doesn't understand the process of discovery and it looks
like something else to him.
..like, if he doesn't "get it", it's an assault on his intelligence rather
than an indication that there's something to learn...and the so called
"experts" are still learning.
The apparent arguement is nothing more than not knowing what "what to get"
looks like while being viewed through an ego.
Heck, if any of us knew that, there couldn't be any dispute.
...and who doesn't have an ego?
It's always OK to not know something.
Ode [A seeker..by no means an "expert"]
At 10:33 AM 11/20/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi Ode,
>
>Thanks for an excellent, informative article--one of the best and most
>helpful I've seen during the few years I've been intoduced to CS!
>
>As I point out to newcomers to this wonderful site, there are some GIANTS
>with much knowledge and a desire to share with seekers of good info (You are
>in my list with these).
>
>My sincere thanks and appreciation to you and ALL.
>Sincerely,
>Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net]
>Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:08 AM
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Subject: Re: CS>Generator site
>
>
>4.) The Brand New "Micro-Particle" Home Colloidal Silver Generator $339.95
>plus $10 s&h
>
>
> This is the only model they offer that even addresses electrode spacing at
>all..and that's VERY important to any sort of calibration. I see there is
>a timer attached to it as well..but no visible way to tell when to start
>timing.
> If you don't know that, even with controlled current..which they
>apparently do use...timing a batch is next to useless.
>" Over a year and a half in development"
> It took them that long to not figure it out?
>
> It's not hard to get a much much better generator for less than half the
>price.
>
>"QUESTION: How do you store colloidal silver?
>
>
>
>ANSWER: Always store colloidal silver in darkly tinted glass bottles at
>room temperature. Because silver is very sensitive to light, you must keep
>it out of the light as much as possible. Storing it in darkly tinted glass
>bottles in a kitchen cabinet is fine. Additionally, never refrigerate
>colloidal silver. Refrigeration slows the electrical charge on the silver
>ions and causes them to drop out of suspension in the water. Keeping your
>colloidal silver at room temperature is always best. Avoid excessive heat
>and excessive cold whenever possible. Also, do not store it close to
>electrical or magnetic influences such as the television, radio, stereo
>speakers (which have large magnets in them) etc. All of these factors can
>seriously weaken the electrical charge on the silver ion, and render your
>colloidal silver less potent."
>
> If the charge is weakened, it ain't an ion. How does a charge of +1
>weaken? There is no 'less than one' at quantum levels.
> I'll maybe go along with temperature extremes..not sure.
>Electromagnetic fields at certain frequencies..maybe sometimes, but
>probably not from motors and magnets.
> I've heated CS in a microwave with no apparent effect other than it
>getting warmed up faster than plain water.
>Solar storms?
> Light sensitivity? Not if it's pure.
>
>"QUESTION: How do I know there are actually silver ions in the water when I
>make colloidal silver without salt?
>
>
>
>ANSWER: First of all, you can taste the distinctive metallic taste of the
>water after making no salt colloidal silver. That alone lets you know
>the silver ions are there. But there is a simple trick for being able to
>see the silver ions when making no salt colloidal silver. You simply
>make your batch of colloidal silver, and then take one of those little red
>laser pointers that shine a bright red laser beam theyre available in
>many office supply stores or catalogs for about $19 and go into a dark
>room. Shine the laser light into your colloidal silver solution (being
>careful not to shine the red beam toward your eyes) and you will see a
>bright red beam of light shining through your colloidal silver solution.
>This is because the laser light is reflecting off of the tens of millions
>of microscopic silver ions that are suspended in the solution. If there
>were no silver ions in the water, the beam would not show up at all,
>because there would be nothing for the beam to reflect off of. In science,
>this is called the Raleigh-Tyndall effect, and it is precisely how
>researchers and scientists make sure the colloidal solutions they have
>prepared without saline indeed have suspended colloid particles in them."
>
>Obviously don't have clue as to the difference between a dissolved ion and
>a suspended particle and the light properties of either
>
>"QUESTION: Why is the Micro-Particle generator limited to producing 7-10
>parts per million?
>
>
>
>ANSWER: Because with the new Micro-Particle generator, you are making
>ultra-small silver ions which have a high penetration ability. Making
>stronger concentrations of colloidal silver defeats the purpose, because
>the more strongly concentrated you make your colloidal silver, the more
>silver ions you get in the upper particle size range. So the
>Micro-Particle generator limits the concentration in order to achieve
>smaller particle size and therefore greater penetration into the cells and
>tissues where certain pathogenic microorganisms such as mycoplasmas are
>know to hide."
>
>Anything bigger than a single ion is not an ion. There's no such thing as
>an ultra small ion.
>There "might" be such a thing as a multi atom cluster that incorporates one
>or more ions in it's structure and has a partial charge for that reason but
>no one has confirmed it to my knowledge.
>
>"QUESTION: Why do some people say that you should only purchase generators
>that produce a single uniform particle size of silver ion?
>
>
>
>ANSWER: Thats no mystery. It is because they are trying to sell you one
>of their generators which only produces a single uniform particle size.
>And that is fine if it is what you want. But as colloidal silver
>researcher Daryl Tichy has demonstrated in independent laboratory research,
>when it comes to colloidal silver, different pathogenic microorganisms
>respond to different particle sizes. This means one type of pathogen might
>respond best to silver ions in the range of .04 microns, while another type
>of pathogen might respond best to silver ions in the range of .001 microns,
>or to some size in between. So you really need a generator that produces a
>controlled range of particle sizes. A generator that produces only a
>single uniform particle size dramatically limits your ability to affect a
>large spectrum of microorganisms. Darryl Tichys research showed clearly
>that a good broad spectrum colloidal silver solution would be a stable
>colloid with a controlled range of particle sizes rather than a single
>uniform particle size."
>
> WHAT!!! Directly conflicting info. They're saying that a wide range is
>better so you need a generator [theirs] that produces a narrow range.
>
> "Although we have tested many other companys home colloidal
>silver generators against those distributed by our recommended vendor The
>Silver Edge Health & Nutritionals, we have yet to find even ONE which
>spends the extra money and time to calibrate their generators in this vital
>manner to enhance your ability to produce high-quality silver ions on a
>consistent basis."
>
>..didn't look very far, did they?
>
>Laughable!
>Ode
>
>At 08:47 AM 11/19/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>>Hi List,
>>
>>Check this site out. This is an example of what I would call blatant
>>misinformation and exorbitant prices for an inferior product. Talk about
>>using scare tactics. I have customers calling/emailing asking if these are
>>good generators. I have to put my hip waders on when reading their
>>disinformation.
>>
>>http://www.silveredgehealth.com/index.html
>>
>>Trem
>>
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