I don't remember where to find the full and original BYU report or even if the following tidbit from [oft faulty] memory was from that report...perhaps its a conclusion made from a combination of reports...but this sticks in the grey matter.... Concentrations of 1 PPB [parts per billion] were effective in killing microbes in test tubes. The difference was in how long it took to get a full kill indicating that the silver was not 'used up' in the process. It took 6 minutes at 3 PPM.
Ode At 07:42 PM 3/5/2004 -0700, you wrote: >I am beginning to think the data is deliberately cooked to make CS look less >effective than it is. > >Kills at 5 PPM? > >Brooks says that 3-5 PPM is highly effective. > >What is the dilution of 1 oz 3 PPM in a standard 150 lb Earther Unit? > >A lot less than 5 PPM. Yet 3 PPM is highly effective when diluted in the >body, and the blood concentration is much less than 1 PPM. > >If it takes 5 PPM of American Silver sol to kill in a test tube or on plated >media, it must be really poor quality stuff. > > What is the standard total blood volume of a standard adult, about 5 L...? > >Does anyone have the details of their testing procedure? > > >JOH > >-----Original Message----- >From: Tornado [mailto:1a...@xs4all.nl] >Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 6:54 AM >To: silver-list@eskimo.com >Subject: Re: CS>Clifton Mining Co Stock > > > >Hi Ode, > >What do you think of thsi testrappot, I know they are testing alot now in >Africa and the results as far as I am informed are stunning. > > >BACTERIA TESTING >Microbiology Department >Brigham Young University >775 WIDB >P.O. Box 25253 >Provo, Utah 84602-5253 >May 13, 1999 >American Silver's Antibacterial Product (ASAP Solution) Testing Results >Summary >The following results suggest that American Silver's ASAP solution is a >broad spectrum antimicrobial agent-it is able to effectively stop the >growth of, and in fact kill, a variety of bacteria. >American Silver's ASAP Silver Supplement has been tested against the >following organisms. >Staphylococcus aureus (Pneumonia, eye infections, skin infections (boils, >impetigo, cellulitis, and post-operative wound infections), toxic shock >syndrome, meningitis, food poisoning, osteomyelitis, and many others) >inhibited @ 2.5 ppm and killed @ 5 ppm. 1/22/99 BYU >Report. >Shigella boydii (Bacillary dysentery-characterized by severe cramping >abdominal pain and bloody diarrhea) inhibited @ 1.25 ppm and killed @ 2.5 >ppm. 1/22/99 BYU Report. >Salmonella arizona (Food poisoning, etc.) inhibited @ 2.5 ppm and killed @ >5 ppm. 1/28/99 BYU Report. >Salmonella typhimurium (Food poisoning and enteric fever) inhibited and >killed at a concentration of 2.5 ppm. 6/7/99 BYU Report. >E. coli (Food poisoning, urinary tract infections, traveler's diarrhea, >diarrhea in infants, respiratory tract infections, and wound infections) >inhibited and killed @ 2.5 ppm. 1/22/99 BYU Report. >Haemophilus influenzae (Otitis media (ear infection), pneumonia, >meningitis, throat and sinus infections (including epiglottitis in children >and sinusitis), and suppurative arthritis in children) inhibited and killed >@ 1.25 ppm. 1/22/99 BYU Report. >Enterobacter aerogenes ( wound infections, urinary tract infections, >bacteremia, and meningitis) inhibited and killed at a concentration of 2.5 >ppm. 6/7/99 BYU Report. >Enterobacter cloacae ( causes ilnesses similar to the E. aerogenes) >inhibited and killed at a concentration of 5 ppm. 6/7/99 BYU Report. >Klebsiella pneumoniae (lower respiratory tract infections, nosocomial >infections (infections spread in hospitals), urinary tract and wound >infections, and bacteremia) inhibited and killed @ 2.5 ppm. 1/28/99 BYU >Report. >Klebsiella oxytoca (Similar to those infections caused by K. pneumoniae) >inhibited and killed at a concentration of 2.5 ppm. 6/7/99 >BYU Report. >Pseudomonas aeruginosa (severe burn and wound infections, keratitis, >pneumonia, meningitis, nosocomial infections, urinary tract infections, >etc.) inhibited @ 2.5 ppm and killed @ 5 ppm. 1/22/99 BYU Report. >Streptococcus pneumoniae (pneumonia, meningitis, sinusitis, otitis media >(ear infection) inhibited @ 2.5 ppm and killed @ 5 ppm. 4/21/99 BYU Report. >Streptococcus pyogenes (skin infections, upper respiratory infections (i.e. >strep throat) impetigo, hospital-acquired infections, scarlet fever, etc.) >inhibited and killed @ 1.25 ppm. 1/22/99 BYU Report. Streptococcus faecalis >(Urinary tract infections, endocarditis, wound >infections, etc.) inhibited @ 2.5 ppm and killed @ 5 ppm. 1/22/99 BYU >Report. Streptococcus mutans (A major cause dental plaque and tooth decay >etc.) >inhibited and killed @ 5 ppm. 2/3/99 BYU Report. >Streptococcus gordonii (Tooth decay, also implicated in infective >endocarditis-an infection of the heart valves) inhibited and killed @ 5 >ppm. BYU Report 2/12/99. > > > >David A. Revelli >Microbiologist >Brigham Young University > > > >Dr. Ron W. Leavitt, Ph.D. >Professor of Microbiology/Molecular Biology >Brigham Young University >http://www.csprosystems.com/BYU_Bacteria_Testing.html > >At 06:42 05-03-2004 -0500, you wrote: >> The good part is that they open up the market to general acceptance >>of silver. >> The past and some of the current batch of CS and generator sellers >>have not treated the consumer very fairly. >> I've seen battery packs going for $150 and the HFS prices on MSP is >>very high...for an inferior product. >> >> The bad part for sellers is, once CS hits the mainstream. China will >>have good mass produced generators out there for $20. >> If you can sell a million of anything, they can be made by robot and >>injection molding really cheaply...but just getting set up to do that >>would take all the money I'd make for years and years. Ode >> >> >> >> >>At 08:13 PM 3/4/2004 -0500, you wrote: >> >"ASAP is good, but it's not different than what you make." >> >.........well, doesn't that make us the fools?? Between them, >> >Nutronix and AGion (any others?) we are kinda left in their dust! >> > >> >I don't begrudge them a bit in whatever they are able to profit from >> >it all........ I'm sure their margins are far less than the damn drug >> >companies for products that will never compile the list of "hurts" as >> >seen in "Death by Medicine." >> > >> >.........more power to 'em and the others who will hopefully follow >> >with more 'new' ideas and inovative marketing. >> > >> >davido >> > >> > >> >On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 17:06:39 -0500 Ode Coyote >> ><coyote...@earthlink.net> >> >writes: >> >> Ask them for the patent numbers. >> >> I've seen the patents and they are not special [very much like an >> >> SG6 with multiple electrodes but without the current >> >> controls]...nor is their product. >> >> ASAP is good, but it's not different than what you make. >> >> >> >> Ode >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> they have patents >> >> >for special processing CS as well. >> >> > >> >> >Emile >> >> > >> >> >>why do you invest in Clifton then? >> >> >> >> >> >>Garnet >> >> >> >> >> >>On Wed, 2004-03-03 at 05:53, Tornado wrote: >> >> >> > Hi Garnet, >> >> >> > >> >> >> > This a very old rumor, I am a Clifton investor. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>-- >> >> >>The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal >> >> Silver. >> >> >> >> >> >>Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: >> >> http://silverlist.org >> >> >> >> >> >>To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver >> >> >>List archive: >> >> http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >> >> >> >> >> >>Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >> >> >>OT Archive: >> >> http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html >> >> >> >> >> >>List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >-- >> >> >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal >> >> Silver. >> >> > >> >> >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: >> >> http://silverlist.org >> >> > >> >> >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver >> >> >List archive: >> >> http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >> >> > >> >> >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT >> >> >Archive: >> >> http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html >> >> > >> >> >List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal >> >> Silver. >> >> >> >> Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org >> >> >> >> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver >> >> List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >> >> >> >> Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT >> >> Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html >> >> >> >> List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >-- >> >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> > >> >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org >> > >> >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List >> >archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >> > >> >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT >> >Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html >> > >> >List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> >> > >> > >> >> >>-- >>The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> >>Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org >> >>To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List >>archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >> >>Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT >>Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html >> >>List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > > > > >-- >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: >http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > >List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > > > > > >-- >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > >List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. 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