I am beginning to think the data is deliberately cooked to make CS look less effective than it is.
Kills at 5 PPM? Brooks says that 3-5 PPM is highly effective. What is the dilution of 1 oz 3 PPM in a standard 150 lb Earther Unit? A lot less than 5 PPM. Yet 3 PPM is highly effective when diluted in the body, and the blood concentration is much less than 1 PPM. If it takes 5 PPM of American Silver sol to kill in a test tube or on plated media, it must be really poor quality stuff. What is the standard total blood volume of a standard adult, about 5 L...? Does anyone have the details of their testing procedure? JOH -----Original Message----- From: Tornado [mailto:1a...@xs4all.nl] Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 6:54 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Clifton Mining Co Stock Hi Ode, What do you think of thsi testrappot, I know they are testing alot now in Africa and the results as far as I am informed are stunning. BACTERIA TESTING Microbiology Department Brigham Young University 775 WIDB P.O. Box 25253 Provo, Utah 84602-5253 May 13, 1999 American Silver's Antibacterial Product (ASAP Solution) Testing Results Summary The following results suggest that American Silver's ASAP solution is a broad spectrum antimicrobial agent-it is able to effectively stop the growth of, and in fact kill, a variety of bacteria. American Silver's ASAP Silver Supplement has been tested against the following organisms. Staphylococcus aureus (Pneumonia, eye infections, skin infections (boils, impetigo, cellulitis, and post-operative wound infections), toxic shock syndrome, meningitis, food poisoning, osteomyelitis, and many others) inhibited @ 2.5 ppm and killed @ 5 ppm. 1/22/99 BYU Report. Shigella boydii (Bacillary dysentery-characterized by severe cramping abdominal pain and bloody diarrhea) inhibited @ 1.25 ppm and killed @ 2.5 ppm. 1/22/99 BYU Report. Salmonella arizona (Food poisoning, etc.) inhibited @ 2.5 ppm and killed @ 5 ppm. 1/28/99 BYU Report. Salmonella typhimurium (Food poisoning and enteric fever) inhibited and killed at a concentration of 2.5 ppm. 6/7/99 BYU Report. E. coli (Food poisoning, urinary tract infections, traveler's diarrhea, diarrhea in infants, respiratory tract infections, and wound infections) inhibited and killed @ 2.5 ppm. 1/22/99 BYU Report. Haemophilus influenzae (Otitis media (ear infection), pneumonia, meningitis, throat and sinus infections (including epiglottitis in children and sinusitis), and suppurative arthritis in children) inhibited and killed @ 1.25 ppm. 1/22/99 BYU Report. Enterobacter aerogenes ( wound infections, urinary tract infections, bacteremia, and meningitis) inhibited and killed at a concentration of 2.5 ppm. 6/7/99 BYU Report. Enterobacter cloacae ( causes ilnesses similar to the E. aerogenes) inhibited and killed at a concentration of 5 ppm. 6/7/99 BYU Report. Klebsiella pneumoniae (lower respiratory tract infections, nosocomial infections (infections spread in hospitals), urinary tract and wound infections, and bacteremia) inhibited and killed @ 2.5 ppm. 1/28/99 BYU Report. Klebsiella oxytoca (Similar to those infections caused by K. pneumoniae) inhibited and killed at a concentration of 2.5 ppm. 6/7/99 BYU Report. Pseudomonas aeruginosa (severe burn and wound infections, keratitis, pneumonia, meningitis, nosocomial infections, urinary tract infections, etc.) inhibited @ 2.5 ppm and killed @ 5 ppm. 1/22/99 BYU Report. Streptococcus pneumoniae (pneumonia, meningitis, sinusitis, otitis media (ear infection) inhibited @ 2.5 ppm and killed @ 5 ppm. 4/21/99 BYU Report. Streptococcus pyogenes (skin infections, upper respiratory infections (i.e. strep throat) impetigo, hospital-acquired infections, scarlet fever, etc.) inhibited and killed @ 1.25 ppm. 1/22/99 BYU Report. Streptococcus faecalis (Urinary tract infections, endocarditis, wound infections, etc.) inhibited @ 2.5 ppm and killed @ 5 ppm. 1/22/99 BYU Report. Streptococcus mutans (A major cause dental plaque and tooth decay etc.) inhibited and killed @ 5 ppm. 2/3/99 BYU Report. Streptococcus gordonii (Tooth decay, also implicated in infective endocarditis-an infection of the heart valves) inhibited and killed @ 5 ppm. BYU Report 2/12/99. David A. Revelli Microbiologist Brigham Young University Dr. Ron W. Leavitt, Ph.D. Professor of Microbiology/Molecular Biology Brigham Young University http://www.csprosystems.com/BYU_Bacteria_Testing.html At 06:42 05-03-2004 -0500, you wrote: > The good part is that they open up the market to general acceptance >of silver. > The past and some of the current batch of CS and generator sellers >have not treated the consumer very fairly. > I've seen battery packs going for $150 and the HFS prices on MSP is >very high...for an inferior product. > > The bad part for sellers is, once CS hits the mainstream. China will >have good mass produced generators out there for $20. > If you can sell a million of anything, they can be made by robot and >injection molding really cheaply...but just getting set up to do that >would take all the money I'd make for years and years. Ode > > > > >At 08:13 PM 3/4/2004 -0500, you wrote: > >"ASAP is good, but it's not different than what you make." > >.........well, doesn't that make us the fools?? Between them, > >Nutronix and AGion (any others?) we are kinda left in their dust! > > > >I don't begrudge them a bit in whatever they are able to profit from > >it all........ I'm sure their margins are far less than the damn drug > >companies for products that will never compile the list of "hurts" as > >seen in "Death by Medicine." > > > >.........more power to 'em and the others who will hopefully follow > >with more 'new' ideas and inovative marketing. > > > >davido > > > > > >On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 17:06:39 -0500 Ode Coyote > ><coyote...@earthlink.net> > >writes: > >> Ask them for the patent numbers. > >> I've seen the patents and they are not special [very much like an > >> SG6 with multiple electrodes but without the current > >> controls]...nor is their product. > >> ASAP is good, but it's not different than what you make. > >> > >> Ode > >> > >> > >> > >> they have patents > >> >for special processing CS as well. > >> > > >> >Emile > >> > > >> >>why do you invest in Clifton then? > >> >> > >> >>Garnet > >> >> > >> >>On Wed, 2004-03-03 at 05:53, Tornado wrote: > >> >> > Hi Garnet, > >> >> > > >> >> > This a very old rumor, I am a Clifton investor. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>-- > >> >>The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal > >> Silver. > >> >> > >> >>Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: > >> http://silverlist.org > >> >> > >> >>To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver > >> >>List archive: > >> http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >> >> > >> >>Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > >> >>OT Archive: > >> http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > >> >> > >> >>List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >-- > >> >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal > >> Silver. > >> > > >> >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: > >> http://silverlist.org > >> > > >> >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver > >> >List archive: > >> http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >> > > >> >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT > >> >Archive: > >> http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > >> > > >> >List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> -- > >> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal > >> Silver. > >> > >> Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > >> > >> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver > >> List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >> > >> Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT > >> Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > >> > >> List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >-- > >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List > >archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT > >Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > > > > > > >-- >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List >archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT >Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > >List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. 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