It was some years back but a group did demonstrate that the placebo
effect does not exist. Wish I still had the study.

Garnet



On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 05:38, John Rigby wrote:
> Hi folks,
> The most frustrating thing in scientific controlled testing is placebo effect.
> When testing a drug three groups are needed:
> 1. Get the drug
> 2. Get a fake (water)
> 3. Get nothing, told nothing, just observed normally. ( vis ordinary 
> population with that symptom set)
> It is CLINICALLY  recognised that up to 30% of the groups 2 and 3 will 
> improve/self-cure.
> BTW: MOST drugs approved today are approved on efficacy rates as low as 
> 20%.........
> ****************** WHY do the 30% recover?
> They are actually observable to anyone with open eyes (3rd ones?).  These 
> are the positive ones.
> It would appear that even the most die-hard should accept that the mind is 
> a powerful component of all healing, thus it is highly likely that negative 
> states promote negative health.........
> 
> Sadly, one group with whom I've had most contact have 100% termination rate 
> UNLESS they self-manage their affliction and my observation is that "cause 
> often shows the cure".
> Not even quarts of CS can help a negative mind!
> Nor can even a positive mind can help if the afflicted stays in the zones 
> that created the illness.  ( Modern food, modern drugs, modern lifestyle)
> 
> In watching almost a thousand successful cures of the big C , every one 
> that was successful *absolutely* required a total lifestyle overhaul - 
> otherwise it *does* come back and the worst form of re-infection is from 
> the mind.
> 
> Big C, MS, Lyme, whatever your case, unless massively interfered with by 
> modern medicine, you can leave it behind.
> 
> Signed:
> "Dead Man Walking"  (20 years later)


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