Ode,
Good Comment.  I remember Dr. Len Horowitz talking about his father - who
smoked, imbibed, and enjoyed good food.  If I recall correctly, he did
within days or a weeks of his wife's passing - both in their late 80's or
early 90's.  An autopsy was performed because it was so 'quick'.  They were
shocked - his body was riddled with cancer and they were amazed he had
survived for years with such extensive disease.  Regardless, Horowitz said
his father did not die of cancer nor a heart attack.  He died of a broken
heart.  Without her, his life no longer had meaning or purpose.  Be aware of
your inner most thoughts for they will create your life.
Christine. 

> From: Ode Coyote <odecoy...@alltel.net>
> Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:27:35 -0400
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>the vital placebo effect in ms etc
> Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Resent-Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 06:24:03 -0700
> 
> 
> 
> Why do some people who never pay any attention to healthy living, live to
> be very old with no medical problems?
> I think that  medicine, health and illness, all, are symbolic in nature.
> This would fit perfectly into the context of a symbolic reality.
> 
> Experience is real, the reality that experience takes place in isn't.
> [Whatever you experience is irrelevant to the reality..sorta.]
> 
> Ode
> 
> At 08:38 PM 4/25/2004 +1000, you wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>> The most frustrating thing in scientific controlled testing is placebo
> effect.
>> When testing a drug three groups are needed:
>> 1. Get the drug
>> 2. Get a fake (water)
>> 3. Get nothing, told nothing, just observed normally. ( vis ordinary
>> population with that symptom set)
>> It is CLINICALLY  recognised that up to 30% of the groups 2 and 3 will
>> improve/self-cure.
>> BTW: MOST drugs approved today are approved on efficacy rates as low as
>> 20%.........
>> ****************** WHY do the 30% recover?
>> They are actually observable to anyone with open eyes (3rd ones?).  These
>> are the positive ones.
>> It would appear that even the most die-hard should accept that the mind is
>> a powerful component of all healing, thus it is highly likely that negative
>> states promote negative health.........
>> 
>> Sadly, one group with whom I've had most contact have 100% termination rate
>> UNLESS they self-manage their affliction and my observation is that "cause
>> often shows the cure".
>> Not even quarts of CS can help a negative mind!
>> Nor can even a positive mind can help if the afflicted stays in the zones
>> that created the illness.  ( Modern food, modern drugs, modern lifestyle)
>> 
>> In watching almost a thousand successful cures of the big C , every one
>> that was successful *absolutely* required a total lifestyle overhaul -
>> otherwise it *does* come back and the worst form of re-infection is from
>> the mind.
>> 
>> Big C, MS, Lyme, whatever your case, unless massively interfered with by
>> modern medicine, you can leave it behind.
>> 
>> Signed:
>> "Dead Man Walking"  (20 years later)


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