Mike Monett wrote: > Re: CS>H2O2 and CS > From: Marshall Dudley > Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 09:38:46 > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m74844.html > > Marshall, > > I'm up against a deadline and don't have time to respond to your > posts in detail, but I don't want you to think I'm ignoring you. > > There is one statement I would like to hear more about. You wrote: > > > Also, silver plates kill bacteria on contact, this is used in > > water purification, no ions here. > > There are plenty of examples showing the effect of ions on bacteria, > but nothing on pure silver. > > Do you have any links showing valid tests where pure silver kills > bacteria? The only thing I can find is a NASA spinoff of their > Apollo water purification system. It uses current to generate silver > ions, as described on all the manufacturer's web pages. Here's a > NASA quote on the original invention: > > "Chlorine-free pools" > > "NASA's silver ion technology has been used to create an automatic > pool purifier. Caribbean Clear Inc. system offers an alternative > to chemicals, such as chlorine and bromine. Purifiers use silver > ions, as used in Apollo Purification Systems, to kill bacteria, > copper ions and algae. They produce spa or pool water that exceeds > EPA Standards for drinking water." > > "Spinoff 1994" > > http://amesnews.arc.nasa.gov/factsheets/ApolloFS.pdf (400k pdf)
My water purifier has silver plated pellets in it to kill bacteria. > > > Another problem with your claim is the particles in cs are silver > oxide, not pure silver. I show this in my analysis, which you do not > challenge: > > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m74754.html They cannot be silver oxide. Silver oxide dissolves in water, and has no tyndall, the very existance of tyndall proves that there are metallic particles of silver in the water. > > > The silver oxides produced in the electrolysis of silver are inert. > There are no studies I can find showing that it kills bacteria or > viruses. Even Frank Key states silver oxides are inert. > > When you froze your HVAC product, the oxides agglomerated into a > black ball in the center, as shown here: > > http://silver-lightning.com/freezing.jpg > > The black color confirms the particles in your product are silver > oxide, and not silver metal. Here is the conclusion from your post: Not true, you got it backwards. Finely divided silver is black, silver oxide is brown or tan. > > > "Conclusion. Freezing caused aggregration tf the silver, and most > of it precipitated out. What was remaining in the water also > aggregated from smaller particles (and likely ions) to much larger > particles. Since tyndall goes up to the 3rd power of particle > size, a lower concentration of larger particles causes the tyndall > to be about the same." > > "Freezeing definitely messes up CS." > > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m60769.html Yes, that is true, the silver particles tended to aggregate. > > > On the other hand, high-ppm ionic cs, such as the cs I make, is not > affected by freezing: > > "Well, I saw the liquid bubble surrounded by ice, but it was > clear. Everything was frozen solid the next time I looked." > > "I kept it in the freezer for 24 hrs, then took it out and let it > thaw." > > "There was no residue in the bottom, the cs was crystal clear, and > the salt test was perfectly normal." > > "So, cs made at 87 uA/sq.in. to a target value of 19 ppm is > unaffected by freezing." I have no information on freezing and ionic silver. I am surprised it is not affected though, since freezing will precipitate every solute I know of ionic or not. Marshall > > > "Best Regards," > > "Mike Monett" > > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m60794.html > > I can attest this cs is very effective on the Shingles virus, as > well as any other infection or cut I use it on. Many other users of > high-ppm ionic cs also say the same thing. > > But if silver ions are converted to silver chloride, as you claim, > and the particles in cs are silver oxide as I have shown above, the > only thing left in your product is the distilled water. > > So how can your product kill bacteria and viruses? > > Best Wishes, > > Mike Monett > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: [email protected] > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]>
