I really don't know. I am not familiar enough with the kinetics. After adding the H2O2 from the experiments I have run, and research I have done it appears that a dynamic situation occurs:
Ag+ ions are oxidized to Ag2O Ag particles are oxidized into Ag2O Ag2O particles are reduced to 2Ag sized particles The result is a mix of Ag2O (which dissolves up to 13 ppm) and 2Ag particles, which are the smallest particles possible for colloidal silver. What determines the ratio of these is the kinetics of the reactions. Concentration of H2O2 may have an effect, as may concentration of Ag, temperature, ph (hydrogen peroxide has a low ph) and so forth. However if both reactions are favored the same, then there would be an equal amount of 2Ag and Ag2O. This would compare with about a 90% Ag+ and 10% particle of the initial EIS. If this is correct, then that would increase the colloidal portion by a factor of about 5:1, plus the particles will be approximately 2 atoms each, instead of the 24 or so normally in EIS. That would increase the particle count by a factor of 12 or so. Thus there would be a total increase of particles of about 60 or so. This may account for the increase in effectiveness. But without more experimenting, I really can't say for sure. When it sits, the H2O2 should slowly be used up as the reaction continues. Once the H2O2 is used up, there is the question of whether the ratio of these two will be a constant, or one will become dominant. I don't have the answer, and I can't even say if after it sits it does not actually get better. I really don't know, and we do need to try and do some more experimenting on this. But this is what I suspect. H2O2 is also a developer (but works best if the ph is not acid, but H2O2 gives a low ph), so the Ag2 particles tend to grow with time especially as the H2O2 gets used up, as other Ag2 particles are consumed to produce more Ag2O. The result may be that after it sits the number of particles goes down, and the size goes up. However this is pure conjecture and needs some experimental evidence to support it. Marshall Ed Kasper wrote: > Marshall do you suspect that EIS and H2O2 will break down or not be as > effective if added together and than stored for many 30 day. > > Ed > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 8:49 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: CS>Update on flu/cold that did not respond well to EIS > > OK, from what I can tell, the EIS was of marginal value for this bug. This > is what happened: > > 1. I got it, ran 102 fever for 3 days, EIS did not seem to help. Took about > 4 ounces of EIS with 2 or 3 drops of H2O2 added on the third night, and my > fever broke about 8 to 10 hours later. Took 10 days to fully recover. > > 2. My daugher got it and ran a 102 fever. On the second day I suggested > trying the EIS with a few drops of H2O2 added. Her fever broke about 8n > to10 hours later. She is still weak, but recovering quite quickly and > nicely. > > 3. Her husband came down with it yesterday, and was running a 101.5 fever. > She gave him some EIS with H2O2 added when he got home. His fever broke > later this morning (estimated to be 8 to 10 hours after taking the EIS with > H2O2) while he was asleep, and he went to work today. > > >From what I can tell the addition of H2O2 and letting sit a few minutes > then drinking it seems to really superpower EIS. From my experiments it > appears that adding H2O2 to EIS breaks down the larger particles and reacts > with the silver ions (silver hydroxide) changing a mix a silver hydroxide > and medium sized particles to silver oxide (Ag2O), and very small > particles. > > I am still not sure if it is the silver oxide or the very small silver > particles that are causing the greatly increased effectiveness, or it could > be both. But I guess it really doesn't matter, thing is, this really > works! Note, I believe this should be used with EIS that is not much > greater than 10 ppm, since silver oxide has a solubility limit of about 13 > ppm. > > Marshall > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com>
