If both exceed their solubility limits and form molecular structures small
enough to stay suspended, then both and either can be considered colloidal.
 Next questions: Can such a molecular structure consist of both molecules
in one crystal and can peroxide scavange one away and/or the other and
break the crystal apart while producing metallic silver in the process?

 What role could suspended oxides in such a crystal play in 'shades of
black' darkened tints of a color produced by particle size? aka "tea" colors.

 It is possible that "particles" can be too small for a laser to 'see'. [?]
Relativly high PPM, low conductivity and little TE is a possible
combination further complicating the use of meters?

Ode

At 04:50 PM 10/6/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>
>Dan Nave wrote:
>
>> This agrees with my experimental results where I had to use about 3
>> drops of H2O2
>> to clear 12 oz. of slightly yellowed CS.  Any less removed the yellow
>> color but left the CS cloudy.
>>
>> However, I'd appreciate if you could clear up a few things for me...
>>
>> What is the final proportion of ionic to colloidal content?  50/50?
>
>I really don't know.  It depends on the rates of conversion from colloid to
>silver oxide, and silver oxide to colloid.  If the rates are the same, then
>one might expect 50/50. However since silver oxide spontaneously converts
>back and forth with silver hydroxide when in solution, and I do not believe
>silver hydroxide takes part in the reaction with H2O2, if the conversion
>between H2O2 and silver oxide and back again are the same, it could be
>66.6/33.3
>
>If the rates are different each direction, then it is anyone's guess.
>
>>
>>
>> Are you calling silver hydroxide the colloidal part and
>> silver oxide the ionic part?
>
>No, both silver oxide Ag2O and silver hydroxide AgOH are ionic.  If you
>have one you have the other when in water, they continually convert from
>one to the other, and I believe approach a 50/50 ratio at the solubility
>limit. I believe at lower concentrations the AgOH tends to dominate though.
>
>Marshall
>
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