Robert Berger wrote:

> Hi Deborah, The laser beam shows that the silver ions are starting to
> clump together. This is called agglomeration, which is something you
> don't want as it just uses up silver and adds nothing to the PPM
> concentration.
>
> Actually you do want some as a preventative against the possibility of
> argyria. The colloidal component is what makes EIS unable to cause
> this condition. Of course particles also add to the ppm concentration
> of silver, silver is silver whether in particle form or as a salt or
> compound.  I believe you mean it adds nothing to the ionic or silver
> oxide/hydroxide aka ionic portion of the ppm. Also since the
> aggregation occurs whenever the ppm exceeds about 26 ppm of ionic
> silver, if you do not stir, then that can be reached near the anode
> although the rest of the batch may only be a couple of ppm.  Stopping
> as soon as there is any particles would produce an EIS of a couple of
> ppm, although continued brewing would increase that to a maximum of
> about 25 or 30 ppm, the solubility limit of the silver
> oxide/hydroxide.
>
> If all you want is the ionic portion without the colloidal portion,
> then one could simply purchase some silver oxide, and mix it with
> distilled water.  That would be a heck of a lot easier, and you could
> make huge amounts of ionic silver oxide/hydroxide in a matter of
> minutes.  But of course without any colloidal component it could also
> cause argyria.  Before you tell me that silver oxide cannot cause
> argyria again here is a link to show that it can:
>
>
> ttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=469606&dopt=Abstract
>
> Argyria: clinical implications of exposure to silver nitrate and
> silver oxide.
>  So if you brew in subdued light then you will see the red beam
> earlier so that you can stop the process sooner. Never wash anything
> with soap or detergents as any residue will cause the EIS (aka CS) to
> turn yellow, which is an indication that agglomeration has set-in.
>
> Surfactants work by neutralizing charge, and when change is
> neutralized silver ions or particles with a charge no longer repel
> each other resulting in aggregation.  Soap, even trace amounts can
> really mess up the brew.
>
> Marshall
>
>
>
>   I hope this helps. "Ole Bob"
>