Automatic polarity shifting?   Mostly ...cleaner electrodes.
Depending on the duration of the DC pulse, both electrodes can be either black or whitish, but shorter durations for whiter electrodes increase the time it takes to get to a given conductivity more than longer durations that tend to make both electrodes black. This time increase is due to field collapse and rebuilt times during the pulses resulting from the polarity shift. [The term "voltage gradient" comes to mind, as "overheard" in a discussion over what controls current flow in a 10-20k volt HVAC setup]
 Oxide formation apparently takes more time than hydroxide formation.

In straight DC operation, it's apparent that high current density favors oxide production ["golden mist"] and that field of oxides entering the water can be shifted back towards the electrode to the point where most or all of it stays stuck by reducing the current. Doing so appears to favor hydroxide formation and entry aka "white mist" and a decrease in the likelihood of color developing now or later, regardless of PPM.

I currently believe, and have some observational evidence to support the notion, that yellow and brown colors in CS come from oxide crystal nucleation of crystalline structures that both display the color due to size and get to be that size from crystal growth around that dark oxide nucleus. If oxides are prevented from forming by tweeking for hydroxides, I rarely get any color at any PPM, even up in the hundreds. However, the really high PPM stuff seems to oxidize over a shorter period of time if exposed to the air... a couple of weeks or so...sometimes depositing a black sheen on the glass and sometimes just going deep yellow, or both, and both subject to conversion by Hydrogen Peroxide. I don't think silver hydroxide is extremely stable....which *might* be a very good thing for bio-availability and some degree of prevention of silver chloride formation. Certain oxides are subject to conversion with the addition of Hydrogen Peroxide. Since H2O2 will also oxidize silver, it's apparent that at least two different forms of silver oxides are playing a role. If a generator is run with H2O2 in the water, neither oxides nor hydroxides form...just pure silver flakes with almost no increase in conductivity. [about 3 uS max] But those silver flakes eventually are converted by the peroxide [and possibly capacitor effect] into yellow water [Form 2 oxide nucleated crystals? ] and black oxide balls on the bottom after many months.

According to a Harvard study I stumbled across, the glass of the container is considered to be a crystal nucleation site. Other observations and correlations to the properties of glass and capacitors say that glass also acts as a capacitor that delivers electrons to some of the silver ions that contact that glass, making some pure silver particles. I wouldn't be surprised to discover that the metallic alloying components of glass would act like a bad solar cell capturing electrons from radio waves and light in order to charge that capacitor. If enough of those ions contact the glass for a long enough duration with no forces to keep them moving, you get a conductive silver mirror that might be moving ion/anion electron interchanges to the edges of that mirror.

Ode


At 12:44 PM 11/24/2006 -0400, you wrote:

Ode,

My only possible frequency at this moment with my provisional setup is one cycle per batch...!

I just wanted to know what the difference would be IF I have an automatic control generator...

Thank you

Carlos


From: Ode Coyote <odecoy...@alltel.net>
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Polarity Switching ?...-Some thoughts about it.
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 09:31:44 -0500



Frequency can tweek the process from favoring oxide production to favoring hydroxide production.

ode



At 04:57 PM 11/23/2006 -0400, you wrote:

Friends,
From what I understand, the object of polarity switching in the process of
brewing AIS is to eliminate the normal silver oxide accumulation in the cathode and the harder coat of silver oxide in the cathode, which maintains both electrodes clean.

A determinate ammount of silver oxide will be produced in batch "A" without polarity switching, which at the end of the process will have produced a noticeable moderate dark grey "beard" on the cathode.

If we have an identical batch "B" (identical water quality and ammount, temperature, process time, current flow, container, electrodes, etc.) and have polarity switching during the process, I assume aproximately the same ammount of silver oxide will be produced, but instead of accumulating it is, in every switching of the polarity, solving into the water, aside from the ions and colloidal particles being produced.

If, after batch "A" is finished, the current is stopped and the electrodes left in the produced EIS, after a few seconds the cathode "beard" starts turning into a "cascade" mostly dissolving in the produced batch, and a smaller part sedimenting at the bottom of the glass jar.

If this is the case, the only basic difference between "A" and "B" would be cleaner electrodes in "B". Both will have a determined ammount of silver oxide incorporated, instead of being cleaned off at intervals during the process.

Regards

Carlos

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