Hi, All, and Ken, I feel the same and also about medical doctors. There are many "good"ones around, including my own personl physician, but one has to do the research. Even when they do do research, they mostly get to sites that agree with current medical practice. However, there are times when they are indispensable. Ruth

From Ruth Strackbein


From: Ken & Nancy Bagwell <kenancy2...@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Fluoride
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 01:23:09 -0700 (PDT)

I feel kinda bad for dentists in a way.

They are locked in a program where, unless they decide to shun their peers and their educators, must believe that fuoride actually does what the ADA and peers say it does.

Think about this: I have, for years, taken for granted that milk is the best source for calcium, and a good source of protein. I've seen all the commercials and heard about calcium supplements and the like. I've grown up in a home where plain old grocery store milk was a staple. And even when that was told to me to be bad, I could "buy the organic, cleaner ones" But when I do research on the detractors, I think they may have very valid points that should make me reconsider if milk in any form is worth ingesting, even though I love the stuff. It wouldn't that painful for me to give up milk if I had to, or thought it might help improve my health. I actually can take the time out of a day and read more about milk anbd decide if I want to continue drinking it.

But imagine a dentist whose whole education, training, and all his peers are similarly told and practice that fluoride is the big deal. What is his motivation to listen to any of his patients? He is the professional with all the training. He goes every few years to update his education, but only by the same types of people who taught him in the first place. Unless he is actually taking an assertive interest in reading about those who are against fluoride, and is willing to give it a fresh look, he will never understand someone like you who says "I use natural fluroide-free toothpastes." He may be the professional, but they are your teeth.

You don't know if he serously and deeply looks into the anti-fluoride camp's protests. He should. But you really don't know if he does. And let's assume he did. And let's assume that he started to think that fluoride was not all it's cracked up to be. What would he have to do, what would he have to change, in order to keep practicing like he is now? Would he make the same money? Would some of his patients leave because they too have been snookered into thinking that fluoride is all that? Would his accreditors be asking him serious questions or making veiled threats to his licensing?

The truth is, you cannot put too much trust in any "professional". You have to educate yourself these days, and you have to be your own advocate. If one of them tries to tell you that such and such is good, and you are pretty sure it isn't, or are suspicious, you just have to tell them how you feel about it. If they can't deal with your opinion or the facts you present, you just have to move along.

  -Ken Bagwell



Pat <pattycake29...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Carlos said, " By the way, has anyone noticed that dental caries problems
have not gotten any better since the beginning of the fluor craze,"

Last week the dentist asked what kind of toothpaste I'd been using because I have a sore place on the upper gum that has been there for 3 months. I told him various natural ones with no fluoride. He about went wild, asking where I read that fluoride is not good for teeth. He said things are put out there on the internet for many reasons and gave me a big lecture. He and the hygienist said that teeth won't re-mineralize without fluoride and that if I hoped to keep mine for the rest of my life, that I needed fluoride toothpaste. He did agree that there might be too much ingested from the water in some places. He said that years ago most people my age (late 50's) didn't have their teeth anymore. He said some might accuse dentists of using the fluoride treatments as a money making scheme, but that can't be true since it cuts down on the fillings necessary. This dentist is a smart man in his 50's who has dedicated his life to keeping his patient's teeth in good
condition. How could he be totally wrong? Is he wrong?

Pat





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