On 2016-01-07 03:08, Mark Pizzolato wrote:
On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2016-01-07 01:00, Mark Pizzolato wrote:
Meanwhile, the 'crude' way to exchange data on most simulators can
actually be done with cut and paste in console or telnet sessions.
Indeed. That also works. But it is really problematic when copying data into
the simulator, since this goes through the OS terminal driver, which have
limitations. Pasting in data often leads to data loss in my experience. But
copying out works fine.
Actually, copying data into a simulator with paste has improved vastly recently.
10's of Kbytes of data pasted at once without data loss. Give it a try.
Uh? Really. How recent do I need it to be then?
I'm on:
PDP-11 simulator V4.0-0 Beta git commit id: e9b312f2
Pasting the following:
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.w
RSX-11M-PLUS BL88 (JOCKE ) 2044K PDP-11/94 at 02:41:45.0, 7-JAN-16
Users=5 Idle=95% Task=KERT5 Up: 0 days, 08:05. Ticks=6 Errseq=0.
user task uic pri where state size(K) ioc par
J Billquist EMAT2 [ Self ] 50 _TT2 WaitFor 5/31 GEN
J Billquist EMAT3 [ Self ] 50 _TT3 WaitFor 5/31 GEN
J Billquist WHOT4 * [ Self ] 50 _TT4 Running 1/4 GEN
J Billquist KERT5 [ Self ] 50 _TT5 Running 11/72 GEN
J Billquist (In CCL) [ Self ] _TT1
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Into another terminal gives:
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.pip nl:=ti:
J Billquist EMAT2 [ Self ] 50 _TT2 WaitFor 5/31 GEN
J Billquist EMAT3 [ Self ] 50 _TT3 WaitFor 5/31 GEN
J Billquist WHOT4 * [ Self ] 50 _TT4 Running 1/4 GEN
J Billquist KERT5
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I doubt simh can do much more, except if I manage to get some delay
involved, as it looks like the RSX terminal driver gets overflowed.
The end result is the same, though. You basically can't paste that much
into simh.
But I still maintain that KERMIT is really the easiest solution to start with.
Given that the user can get beyond the chicken and egg problem of getting
Kermit on the simulated system to start with...
Yup, there is still that problem. The only "comfort" is that if you can
just transfer one chunk of printable text into the host, then you're
good. KERMIT have a bootstrap procedure that only needs transfer of two
text files to get started...
Johnny
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