If I were an advanced life form, I wouldn't contact people like us. I think it may be possible that we are required to reach a certain level of progress before such beings would make themselves known.
-Colin On 4/25/07, Matt Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
--- Samantha Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jeff Rose wrote: > > Matt Mahoney wrote: > >> --- Tom McCabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> --- Craig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Kurzweil already postulated this a while ago. > >>>> Although I don't agree with his conclusions. He says > >>>> that if any society were to attain the "singularity" > >>>> then their presence would already be felt, and since > >>>> we can feel no presence then essentially this proves > >>>> that humans are the only sentient life forms in > >>>> EXISTENCE. I wholeheartedly disagree with Kurzweil's > >>>> reasoning in this matter, since he takes such a > >>>> human perspective in regards to imagining an alien > >>>> technology. I think his stance is very presumptuous > >>>> on his part. For instance he assumes that we haven't > >>>> felt their presence merely because there isn't > >>>> anything to detect. When in fact he never considered > >>>> that human senses or sciences may not be acute > >>>> enough to detect them. > >>> Human senses, while crude, are good enough to detect a > >>> wholesale rearrangement of a large majority of the > >>> matter in the solar system. > >> > >> A technology this advanced could also reprogram your neurons to make you > >> believe whatever it wanted. There is no way you could detect this. > > > > Although that might be the case for some technology of the future > > (protein manipulating nano-bots), it seems that unless you want to > > create a religion based on these kinds of beliefs you really can't go > > very far with them. What would the logic of being an advanced race > > that hides itself from those it finds on other planets anyway? > > > My fantasy along these lines is that one or more species that safely got > past Singularity, or their "mind children" attempted to free evolve > intelligent species such as they once were. The reasons were myriad, > curiousity, a change to tweak some of the parameters to see if some > things could have been different, simply thinking at a deep enough > level to be a de facto full simulation about what occurred for their > species. They don't show themselves because you can't show yourself to > a historical simulation, memory, daydream or two an experiment with > strict protocols. > > - samantha Maybe we are unaware of the presence of an advanced intelligence, not because it is hiding, but because our minds are too weak to detect it. The bacteria in your intestines are not aware of the existence of humans, but it is not because you are hiding. Why does the universe exist? -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?&;
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