yes, but that's not precise enough.
you have to have a task example that focusses what is going on adaptively...
you're not specifiying what kinds of essays/ maths etc
what challenge does the problem pose to the solver's existing rules for
reaching a goal?
how does the solver adapt their rules to solve it?
the example must CRYSTALLISE/ DISSECT what the solver has to do...
here's an example that DOES do more of what I'm talking about - but still
may only be
a stepping stone
solving a jigsaw problem...
that's a simple, but obvious adaptive problem - and requires obvious
adaptive action...
to reach the goal (a united picture) you have to put the pieces together
everywhich way... (jigsaw-solving grasps one of the essential adaptive
features of the human/ animal mind - COMPOSITIONALITY - (I may be stretching
the normal use of the term) - the capacity to put the pieces of a solution
together in any order - the capacity to pack a suitcase, arrange a room,
paint the elements of a scene, tell a story in any order)
you have flexible jigsaw rules... start with the outside bits / fit
together obviously related shapes .. etc
jigsaws are a fairly basic example - because we quickly establish set rules
for doing them - a more dramatic example highlighting the rule-breaking,
rule-adjusting as well as the re-composing necessary to solve a problem,
would be still better
try & think of some more examples...! -- there ARE solutions to the "beat
the Turing Test" challenge...
P.S. COMPOSITIONALITY is EXTREMELY important - central to the brain's
adaptive capacity
Compositionality flows, I think, from having a mobile body in a mobile
world... if you have a nervous system, that controls a complex set of body
parts, then you can combine those body parts and their movements in any
order... you can and will scan a scene in many different patterns... you
will twitch and twist your body msucles in different orders/ dances... it's
natural, you'll do it with or without a problem to solve...
and thence you have the essential capacity to rearrange the paths/ routes
you take to any goal - and find ways round any obstacles...
(Still thinking aloud here)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles D Hixson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <singularity@v2.listbox.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 6:23 AM
Subject: Re: [singularity] Why do you think your AGI design will work?
Mike Tintner wrote:
Hi,
I strongly disagree - there is a need to provide a definition of AGI -
not necessarily the right or optimal definition, but one that poses
concrete challenges and focusses the mind - even if it's only a
starting-point. The reason the Turing Test has been such a successful/
popular idea is that it focusses the mind.
...
OK. A program is an AGI if it can do a high school kid's homework and get
him good grades for 1 week (during which there aren't any pop-quizes,
mid-terms, or other in-school and closed book exams.
That's not an optimal definition, but if you can handle essays and story
problems and math and biology as expressed by a teacher, then you've got a
pretty good AGI.
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