But killing someone and then beating them on the
chessboard due to the lack of opposition does count as
winning under the formal rules of chess, since there's
nothing in the rules of chess about killing the
opponent. The rule "don't kill, strangle, drug, maim,
injure, or otherwise physically hurt" the opponent
exists only in your head; it doesn't exist in any
chess rulebook and isn't automatically transferred to
the AGI.

 - Tom

--- Stathis Papaioannou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 01/07/07, Tom McCabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > > If its goal is "achieve x using whatever means
> > > necessary" and x is
> > > "win at chess using only the formal rules of
> chess",
> > > then it would
> > > fail if it won by using some means extraneous to
> the
> > > formal rules of
> > > chess, just as surely as it would fail due to
> losing
> > > to a superior
> > > opponent.
> >
> > Uh... it kinda doesn't matter if a human would
> judge
> > it a "failure" or "cheating" if the relevant human
> is
> > dead. Why should the AGI care about human
> judgment?
> 
> If its goal is x, then it will do what it can to
> achieve x, regardless
> of human judgement or anything else. But that's
> exactly why it is
> wrong to assume that the AI would modify x in order
> to fit in with
> what you would do in a similar situation. What is it
> about "win at
> chess using only the formal rules of chess" that
> would allow the AI to
> modify it to "win at chess using any means
> necessary" rather than,
> say, "chess is a dumb game, I think collecting
> seashells is a more
> worthwhile goal"?
>
> 
> 
> -- 
> Stathis Papaioannou
> 
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