Hi,
Just to point out that media may still flow if you consider IM using the
MESSAGE method as media.
Roni Even

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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Kyzivat
> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 9:11 PM
> To: Retesh Chadha
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] regarding SDP
> 
> First, IMO it is entirely valid to send an offer where all media lines
> have the port set to zero. It is however somewhat of a strain to find
a
> good reason why someone would do this. (But I expect we can come up
with
> something.)
> 
> Its also quite ok to send an answer with all the ports set to zero,
and
> if the offer had them that way then the answer must.
> 
> While an answer may want to refuse an INVITE if all media have been
> rejected, I don't believe it is required to do so. Its quite all right
> to have a call with no media. I don't see why it should matter how you
> get into that state:
> - an initial offer with no m-lines
> - because the answerer rejected all the m-lines in the offer
> - because the offerer started out with port=0 in all the
>    m-lines of the initial offer
> - because the offerer in a re-INVITE sets the port=0 in
>    all the m-lines.
> 
> Some of these may make more sense than others, but they all seem ok,
and
> likely to eventually find a use.
> 
> Retesh Chadha wrote:
> > RFC doesnt put any restriction regarding this.
> >
> > It doesnt make much sense apart from the following scenario i can
think
> of.
> 
> While the following is possible, it might make more sense to achieve
the
> intended results by using a non-zero port number and c=0.0.0.0 (a
"black
> holed" media address.)
> 
>       Paul
> 
> > Say, UAC just wants to check if the UAS is available or not, and
then
> > when UAS responds with 200 ok, UAC negotiates the capabilities; ie
UAC
> > doesnt want to negotiate media unless it knows for sure UAS is
> > available. Here we may think that INVITE without sdp may do the same
> > but not actually because, then UAS may send sdp in 200 ok which will
> > force UAC to negotiate.
> >
> > Dont know if the above is a practical scenario.
> >
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