First Invite in this figure is really a re-Invite. Pl. refer to the text
accompanying this figure:

     Let's assume, that in the middle of the session, A wishes to change
   the IP address where it is receiving media.  Figure 3 shows this
   scenario.

   SDP1: A includes an offer in a re-INVITE (1)


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Sarkar, Uttam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 3:56 PM
>To: Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh); [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
>[email protected]
>Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] Query 100rel in re-INVITE
>
>Here is that figure. I don't see any re-INVITE at all.
>Here INVITE (1) had 200 OK (7) and ACK (8).
>No further re-INVITE.
>
>
>
>               A                                            B
>
>               |                                            |
>               |-------------(1) INVITE SDP1--------------->|
>               |                                            |
>               |<------(2) 183 Session Progress SDP2--------|
>               |  ***                                 ***   |
>               |--*R*-----------(3) PRACK-------------*R*-->|
>               |  *E*                                 *E*   |
>               |<-*S*-------(4) 200 OK (PRACK)--------*S*---|
>               |  *E*                                 *E*   |
>               |  *R*                                 *R*   |
>               |  *V*                                 *V*   |
>               |  *A*                                 *A*   |
>               |  *T*                                 *T*   |
>               |  *I*                                 *I*   |
>               |  *O*                                 *O*   |
>               |  *N*                                 *N*   |
>               |  ***                                 ***   |
>               |  ***                                       |
>               |  ***                                       |
>               |-------------(5) UPDATE SDP3--------------->|
>               |                                            |
>               |<--------(6) 200 OK (UPDATE) SDP4-----------|
>               |                                            |
>               |<-----------(7) 200 OK (INVITE)-------------|
>               |                                            |
>               |------------------(8) ACK------------------>|
>               |                                            |
>               |                                            |
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 3:48 PM
>To: Sarkar, Uttam; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
>[email protected]
>Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] Query 100rel in re-INVITE
>
> 
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Sarkar, Uttam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 3:17 PM
>>To: Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh); [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
>>[email protected]
>>Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] Query 100rel in re-INVITE
>>
>>I see UPDATE is used before sending 200 OK (for INVITE).  I don't see 
>>any re-INVITE scenario here. Am I missing something here?
>
>Yes. Pl. see sec. 13.1, Figure 3.
>
>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 2:56 PM
>>To: Sarkar, Uttam; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
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>>Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] Query 100rel in re-INVITE
>>
>>I think RFC 3312 has some examples where 18x is needed for 
>>preconditions in a mid-call session.
>>
>>Sanjay.
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Sarkar, Uttam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 2:05 PM
>>>To: Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh); [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
>>>[email protected]
>>>Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] Query 100rel in re-INVITE
>>>
>>>Whole idea of 100rel is to make sure 18X message is received by the 
>>>other party so that they can be sure of exchnage any media before 
>>>session is established.
>>>Re-INVITE is for established session.
>>>Please correct me if I am wrong.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:09 PM
>>>To: Sarkar, Uttam; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
>>>[email protected]
>>>Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] Query 100rel in re-INVITE
>>>
>>>It might be useful for QoS cases. 
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>>>Of Sarkar,
>>>>Uttam
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 11:28 AM
>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
>>>>Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Query 100rel in re-INVITE
>>>>
>>>>I still can't understand why 100rel is requiring to a
>>>re-INVITE (change
>>>>media from audio to audio and video).
>>>>In the re-INVITE it will carry the new media. Other endpoint will 
>>>>respond back with final response (like 200 OK or 488 Not Acceptable 
>>>>Here).
>>>>I can't imagine other end will send 18X with media and send
>>>PRACK for a
>>>>session that is already established.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 10:57 AM
>>>>To: [email protected]
>>>>Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Query 100rel in re-INVITE
>>>>
>>>>   From: "Sarkar, Uttam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>
>>>>   100rel does not make sense in re-INVITE as session is already
>>>>   established. UAS is expected to send final response
>>>(2XX/4XX/5XX etc
>>>>).
>>>>   It can send 100 trying to stop retransmission of INVITE 
>while it's
>>>>   preparing the final response.
>>>>   It's not recommended for UAS to send 1XX response for the
>>>re-INVITE.
>>>>
>>>>One can imagine scenarios where a re-INVITE might not be
>>>instantaneous,
>>>>and so 100rel might be a useful mechanism.  For instance, if one 
>>>>endpoint wishes to upgrade an audio call to an 
>audio-and-video call, 
>>>>the other endpoint might want to ask its user before activating the 
>>>>video camera.
>>>>
>>>>Dale
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