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>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
>John Williams
>Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 7:32 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: [Sip-implementors] ACK retrans in UAC
>
>Hello,
>
>I have several questions about retransmissions in a UAC, 
>especially ACK retransmission :
>
>1. When an ACK request must be retransmitted ? and how ?
>
>I've been looking in RFC 3261 in 17.1.1.3 for 3xx/6xx ACK and in
>13.2.2.4 for 2xx ACK. ACK construction is detailed but I did 
>not found the retransmission process. In 13.2.2.4 :
>
>   The ACK MUST be passed to the client transport every time a
>   retransmission of the 2xx final response that triggered the ACK
>   arrives.
>
>Ok, but this is not really an ACK retransmission as it is 
>triggered by the arrival of another 2xx response.
Yes, ACK is sent when UAC gets a retransmitted successful (2xx) or an
error response (4xx/5xx/6xx), since there is no response to ACK.

>
>   The UAC core considers the INVITE transaction completed 
>64*T1 seconds
>   after the reception of the first 2xx response.  At this 
>point all the
>   early dialogs that have not transitioned to established dialogs are
>   terminated.  Once the INVITE transaction is considered completed by
>   the UAC core, no more new 2xx responses are expected to arrive.
>
>Ok, that says when ACK retransmissions must be stopped, but 
>not when (and how) retransmissions are triggered. I think they 
>can be triggered like regular requests (exponential T1 timer), 
>but there is no response to stop ACK retransmission... There 
>must be something I misunderstood.
>
>2. Is it necessary to retransmit an ACK if a transport error 
>occured while sending the first ACK ?
No, I think UAC should disconnect the call. I think the standard
mentions about sending a Bye to the UAS to disconnect the dialog, but if
there was a transport error while sending ACK, BYE may also fail.

>
>That would be the trigger I am looking for.
>
>3. More generally, is it necessary to retransmit a request if 
>a transport error occured (creating a new transport) ?
>
>I think it is not necessary, but I am not sure.
I do not think trying an alternate transport type will help if initial
one fails. The UAC should alternate alternate addresses if available,
for example by doing a dns lookup if server address is a hostname and
cycling through the resolved addresses till it gets a successful
response or list is exhausted.

Sanjay
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>john
>
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